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EPISODE: Episode 10
The panel provides a history lesson, profiles a few upcoming fights, and highlights the Claressa Shields victory from the week before, while commenting on the lousy production.
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Hello there talking fight fans around the world, welcome to another episode of the friday night panel featuring christian and mike and myself uh we’re here to bring you all the latest news from the professional world of sports, in particular boxing and what’s coming up this particular weekend.
Uh, but before we do that, i believe christian has a little bit of history for us yeah.
We always like to kick these these things off with a bit of a history lesson if we can find a good classic fight worth talking about.
So i found a couple of uh: a great classic fight.
You’Ll recognize the names uh we’re gon na talk uh joe lewis, joe louie, joe lewis.
I like those there, you go but yeah joe lewis versus max schmeling in 1938.
Okay, we’re talking a little bit about both fighters here, so in the mid this now, this goes way back in 1938 and we’ll talk a little bit about the whole time frame and everything in here as well, but we’ll try to we’ll keep it mostly to boxing Here so in the mid mid-30s, germany was looking to show the world how great their athletes were.
Um max schmeling, a german heavyweight, was considered to be one of the best in the world at the time um.
Now, at the time of the first fight between lewis and schmeling in germany, it was this was at a point in 1936, just in the run-up to the berlin olympics.
Uh now schmeling defeated joe lewis on uh june 19th, 1936 in the first uh fight between the two of them.
Uh lewis was 24-0 at the time and in line for a shot at the title when he was knocked out by schmeling in the 12th round about the full distance at least uh promoters, though, were refusing to give schmeling a shot at the world champion.
At the time, james braddock, because of the fact that they thought, if the german won the title, he would refuse all challenges from americans and then so.
Instead, what they did is they gave the title shot to lewis, who properly knocked out braddock.
Well, not promptly.
It was in the eighth round, but it was early in the eighth round to take that title.
So lewis has now decreed uh immediately decreed that he was not the real world champion, not until he defeated schmelin, so the rematch was set for the 22nd of june 1938.
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So you got ta remember at the time germany had already annexed austria at that point.
Uh in history and was only 15 months off of the invasion of poland.
That would set off the second world war.
And at this point the german propaganda machine was already in full effect and they loved being able to say that they had the top boxer.
In the world, so joe lewis, you know probably ended that one, however, for germany, uh knocking smelling out just two minutes into the into the rematch itself.
So, but what is worth note here is that max smelling did not identify with the nazi party uh when he returned to germany.
After his defeat by joe lewis, schmeling was now shunned by the nazis uh.
He won both the german and the european heavyweight championships on the same night, with a first round knockout of uh adolf hi, uh, nothing from them.
During the during the nazi purge of the jews from berlin, he personally saved the lives of two jewish children by hiding them in his apartment.
And this wasn’t the first time that uh shemelia defied the nazi regime either uh or their hatred of the jews and as like, as the story goes here, hitler.
Let it be known throughout the reich’s ministry of sport that he was not happy with schmelling’s relationship with joe jacobs, his jewish fight promoter, and he wanted that finished.
He wanted it over with, but wasn’t going to bow even to hitler and basically told him to bugger off during the war.
Spelling was drafted, like all germans at the time and he served with luftwaffe and was trained as a paratrooper uh.
He participated in the battle of crete and was uh wounded on day, one uh taking mortar fire shrapnel in his right knee uh, so after he recovered from that, he was dismissed from active service uh for being medically unfit due to his injury uh.
Nevertheless, in july 1944, a rumor actually went around that he had been killed in action and that made headlines around the world still at that point in time, uh he later went on to visit american pow camps in germany and occasionally was seen trying to help conditions For the prisoners, so you know he wasn’t a bad guy at the end of it all now, uh at the end, in their later years, both smelly and smelly and lewis became actually quite good friends, uh schmeling actually serving as a poll bearer at lewis’s funeral and That is our history lesson for the evening max schmeling joe lewis, 1938.
thanks pete stuff.
I never do before right now.
Thanks teach, i try all right yeah, all right.
We have we any uh fights to recap.
I know you saw a couple today mike uh.
Why don’t you give us the lowdown yeah come on give us the load, give us the lowdown on that famous famous knockout.
You saw soon to be famous.
This is going to go down history yo, honestly, that was uh.
That was pretty interesting.
I’M not gon na lie.
That was the uh, the uh garfield mcgregor card.
It was the uh, it was the co-main event.
Actually the uh hughes hughes, highland junior fight for the british lightweight title uh.
Let’S just say that about an hour ago.
I believe it was the eighth round, uh nice gut shot after a few flurries uh.
The fight was going back and forth and uh.
He gave him this gut shot guy dropped to his knee.
He thought uh, you know hey.
The fight has been called over, so he stands up.
He starts walking back to his corner.
The ref hasn’t said anything so hughes just runs up front right behind him and just gives him this hook right around from the back to the front.
Just drops him and ding ding ding fights over ko.
Here we go put the belt on here’s the new champ.
I was on my way back to the house here to make sure i was here in time for this and i he was in no mood to talk to me at all.
He’S like i’ll.
Tell you later i’ll.
Tell you on the show: okay but yeah.
No, it was, it was brilliant.
I’Ve never seen that before um.
I don’t know what they’ve called it yet.
I i’m still waiting to see what the results of that were.
Actually, if they’ve called it a tko or ko, but honestly he was ko’d man, no matter what that guy went down like a sack of bricks, but on the mat it was just.
I can’t believe it.
Man like it just goes to show you don’t turn your back on people, man and you know what you got ta wait.
You got ta, wait till that ref calls it man, don’t just assume [ __ ], because when you assume it it makes it you’re.
In a fight, you are in a fight exactly.
Why are you turning your back? Why are you turning your back? He turned his back and he suffered the consequence and got dropped, but honestly i’ll tell you uh that card uh.
I believe you know what there’s the there was another fight on that card.
That was very it came to a draw.
I can’t remember the names right now, uh, it’s it’s worse than being worse than being dropped worse than the actual loss on his record.
Worse than the ko or tko is going to be the fact it’s going to be his residence in every 2021 blooper reel, he’s gon na be in every top top ten moments of you know.
Whatever he’s gon na spend he’s gon na spend the next 12 months.
You don’t know his name, but he’ll be that guy you’re.
That guy oh here here comes that guy watch.
This watch this, but again again i’ll tell you that’s gon na hurt the the winner, obviously didn’t want to leave it in the hands of the judges.
No no way, man no way exactly exactly what we said: uh the fight, the fight that i was talking about before that was um uh, the robinson, an alien fight for the uh, the the welterweights.
What a brilliant battle between these two man, these guys literally like put on a show uh, came to a draw.
There’S gon na be a rematch um, yo man.
That honestly was.
It was a great belt to watch, but we got more boats coming up.
We got lots coming up tomorrow, i’m so excited for all these.
All these fights coming up tomorrow, man uh the favorites brother uh, the favorites got to be the ortiz junior and hooker.
That’S a lovely yeah! That’S that’s going to be the de la hoya’s golden boy.
Honestly, this is a highly anticipated welterweight.
Showdown between the two virginia teams is 16 and two texas right he’s mr 100, 16 and 016 knockouts, and we got maurice mighty mo hooker 27-1-3 with 19 kos.
This event is actually this whole card is stacked from top to bottom and, like honestly, the we got we got huge fights on this card.
We got the valdez and torres junior featherweights.
We got uh rincon and uh uh solas with for the junior welterweights.
This is a this is a welterweight event: junior welterweight event, cruiserweight we got on here and we got the wba women’s uh straight weight title, which is ortiz and estrada sensei estrada last friday’s girl that we talked about mrs holds the record for fastest female knockout in History: seven punches seven seconds, seven hours of sleep, it’s actually sleep is not recommended.
After after taking one of those.
No no, no like medically sleep is not recommended.
Michael the doctors tried their dampest, the doctors.
You can hear it, you can hear it.
Wake up! Wake up you’re still at the fight, come on wake up now, hello, hello, hi, hi! Welcome back! Welcome back yeah! You just got knocked out honestly big, that’s a big card! That’S a huge current uh! You know sensei estrada, i’m totally down to watch that man and then you know you got the ortiz’s headline that man that’s a huge, huge event.
Uh.
You know we we, we did virgil ortiz on uh knuckle up man, young upcoming fighter men, mr knockout, mr 100.
16, you know 16 wins no loss to 16k.
It’S gon na be a huge battle there.
Then we have coming up after that.
The same night is uh.
The uh benchmade and uh dennis fight, which is um.
The weight is over.
It’S the wbc and ibf light heavyweight world champion.
Metro betrayed he’s 15-0, with 15 knockouts he’s finally going to fight the top contender.
Now top-ranked chairman bob arum says they have big plans for betrayment, but he must.
He must first come out in this russian homecoming and make it a devastating win, so he is going to be coming out and he’s going to be a force to be reckoned with.
Watch that battle to be a slugfest he’s going to come out and he’s going to probably destroy in a timely fashion, like always guys, that’s a great card there as well lots of crap i’m going to catch that one sunday morning, buddy.
I think just because that’s going to be playing in moscow, so yeah, i’m not watching that in the middle of the night, i’m gon na that that’s that’s a that’s tomorrow morning, kind of thing well, there’s and that leaves that leaves time for eddie hearn’s match room As well so that’s right, that’s right, there’s also uh.
There’S two junior middleweight fights on that card as well, and then uh.
Also the wbc silver super middleweight.
Title 12 rounds is on that card as well and uh.
Then we got the light heavyweight world title and you know that’s gon na just you know it’s gon na be a great, a great battle man.
It’S a long, long awaited return to the ring for the champ and uh.
You know honestly he’s an undefeated, mr knockout artist as well.
We’Ve talked about him on knuckle up many times and then uh to round out uh.
Tomorrow we have lawrence uh, i believe it’s oakley um yeah and he’s fighting uh, glowack glowwinky and now that’s not christophe.
Yeah yeah wbo cruiserweight title that one yeah the vacant, the vacant, wbo title and uh.
You know this kid lawrence man he’s uh, he’s big things: man he’s 15 and over 12 knockouts and uh he’s looking to unify the championships before he moves up a weight class is what he’s his plans are.
So he wants the unified belts before he jumps up away and uh yo he’s he’s very excited to watch this guy.
I’Ve seen a few a few of his fights very explosive he’s got a hard hitting hands.
Man he’s got knockout power in any punch.
Just got ta be careful with this guy uh, some very, very exciting fights another big fight that i’m excited for is not tomorrow, but uh.
It’S coming up on the 25th and that’s uh, the serrano and bermudez fight.
That’S going to be a huge fight for uh.
The women’s division and uh, you know seven division world champion and future boxing hall of fame amanda soreno.
It’S her return to the ring to defender wbo and wbc featherweight titles.
So that is going to be huge.
That’S going to be an amazing event there and uh, and then also tomorrow is uh our card with uh the girl that we profiled today on our show she’s fighting as well.
Caitlyn caitlin’s headlining her own events over uh on the other side of the world.
I don’t know if that one will be televised, it might be so, hopefully uh we get to watch her fight because honestly uh her her corner, they they do not post any of her fighting uh fighting footage uh just to uh, leave their opponents in the dark.
So really you don’t get to see anything of this girl.
You have to watch her live or you don’t get to see her.
You know champion and youngest pro in her country straight on ireland.
So make sure make sure you guys try to find that fight on uh somewhere on the line you know other than that here, speaking speaking of our favorite irish fighter, isn’t uh katie taylor schedules the fight pretty soon uh katie taylor is scheduled to fight coming up Shortly, i i don’t know if it’s been confirmed as of yet well, let’s phone up our boy, eddie hearn and find out right.
I think i think we should.
I think we should call up eddie anybody see anything.
I don’t see your name coming up on anything right now, so i don’t think i need to be confirmed yet she’s.
She scheduled, though she’s scheduled to fight natasha jonas uh, and that’s for the title.
Uh.
That’S that’s supposed to be uh may the uh.
I believe it’s may the first uh yeah, so it’s may.
The first is schedule, for i don’t know if it’s been confirmed as of yet uh, you know but yeah.
I can’t wait to see katie taylor get in the ring and you know just smash some people out she’s a great, exciting fighter to watch.
You know she hits like a truck and uh.
You know has no off gear man.
She just comes in and throws down harder and faster than everybody.
She fights speaking of female fighters, one of the women that we’ve focused on amanda golly from her own home country.
She’S got some exciting news that she announced this week and i believe she has a fight coming up as well uh.
Yes, yes, i believe she does have a fight coming up uh very soon.
I believe it’s she announced a co-management deal and uh, i’m pretty sure, pardon parcel.
That was the uh fight.
Yes, i believe she’s scheduled to fight uh.
No, it says you know what i can’t find it anywhere right now, um i i know she schedules a fight coming up soon.
I i guess the deal just hasn’t been hasn’t been finalized, so we’ll have to check with our friends on instagram for that yeah.
I guess so, or maybe maybe maybe just call her up and get her on the show and she can tell us when she’s fighting yeah.
That’S a that’s even better idea! Yeah, you know what you know, what fight fans will get amanda golly on the show, we’ll get her to tell us when her next fight’s coming up and then she can uh.
She can tell us all about her uh her her wonderful new uh co-promotional deals.
She just uh signed there with linda bella and team, so but other than that man.
We got lots of good fights this uh this weekend.
I’M looking very you know i’m looking forward to saturday uh.
You know our only day off here at uh, talking fight, because you know what do we do? Saturdays watch we’re busy we’re busy man we’re busy.
We watching fights we’re watching fights around the world, we’re working yeah we work here.
We got our feet up.
How far ahead into the future, are you looking right now mikey you, you have may in your sights yet yeah.
You look well, i’m just saying canelo’s next fight! Oh, that’s! That’S a big one too buddy! That’S a big one too! That’S coming on! May i think it’s may 8th, isn’t it yeah, so the canelo sanders card man? That’S that’s gon na, be that’s gon na, be a huge one as well.
Like honestly, that’s that’s! That’S a big card too, but you know what that’s what early predictions earlier.
Canelo, our boy canelo, you know, come on.
What do you think is going to happen? What do you think is going to happen? I i think, um.
Well, here’s what here’s what happens here is, i don’t think saunders has the uh.
He doesn’t have the punching power to drop canelo, but he wants it to go to the judges he he he it has to go to the judges.
If so, if you, if he wants to beat canelo, because i don’t think he can drop him, no, i don’t know and canelo is not going to wait.
I do believe he’ll give him a.
I do believe.
He’Ll give him a better a better go than uh than his last year.
Yeah yeah, that yields room fight was, i don’t know.
I just had such high hopes for yogurt somebody in that somebody in that ring there needed money, real bad to pay for their ferrari or their or their freaking matches.
It was in the back of my previous fights and the golovkin fight.
I believe the first one – and so i just like he has that inside track he’s, but he was he was the sparring partner.
He know.
No, i thought if anyone thought this kid’s gon na know no, oh my god.
I had high hopes, though, and i like don’t get me wrong.
You know i love canelo alvarez it just.
I thought in the back of my head, i’m like no.
This is going to be the upset nope yeah.
You know what you know.
What listen you can’t win them all.
You can’t win them all uh.
You know eventually, one day, somebody sometimes hey, mayweather, just hey mayweather duck and dodge certain fights to keep that record clean.
Let’S be real they’re fighting well and, as you heard from a history lesson today since since the 30s they’ve been ducking, fights and good old, they duck jack johnson because he was black.
They wouldn’t take his fights back in 1910, they ducked schmeling in the 30s because they didn’t want it to go to the nazi party, a heavyweight title.
People have been ducking fights strategically, since there have been professionals that has strategically worked out in his favor enough said.
He’S got good people around him.
That’S what that’s! What yes about, having good people around you, and that makes all the difference, especially for young boxers up and coming as well.
If you’ve got the right promoter, if you’ve got, you know the right social media team, if you’ve got all these different pieces put together, it could be the difference between success and who’s, that guy, oh, no he’s 16-0, who you know like it’s it can make such A such a huge difference having the right people around you and part of that is going to be them getting you the right fights at the right time.
Definitely definitely uh big news on monday for knuckle up.
We have a special guest casir mazzy goldstein is coming on undefeated top ranked prospect, um highly decorated, amateur uh, over 200 wins uh turned pro at the age of 17 uh just celebrated his 18th birthday and uh.
We have him on the show on monday, so everybody make sure you tune in and check that out.
I’M excited for that interview and uh yeah.
I think it’s about time to start getting to our our jobs and actually watch some fights tonight and uh tomorrow around the world.
So we have stuff to report about on sunday for knockouts and uh through the rest of the week.
Unless anybody else wants to talk about anything else, that’s going on in the boxing world right now, maybe uh has anybody heard anything about the uh, the whole deal between joshua and fury if if they picked the place because they had that 30-day thing where they had To pick a place or find a place, nothing going on there in the world like this is getting ridiculous.
Let’S just get the [ __ ] signed already man get in that ring and start bashing people out man come on.
That’S what everybody wants to see anyway.
Well, this is the problem.
This is the problem mikey when both people, both fighters, have the right team around them.
These guys want to get in there.
They want to knock it out.
This is this.
Is now it’s the bureaucrats? It’S the promoters, it’s the accountants.
It’S the no! You can’t hold that fight in that country, because we have a weird diplomatic thing going on right now: okay, now we got ta hold back over here now, it’s in the hands of the politicians and the accountants and everybody else other than the fighters, and as we Just said this has been part of the game since time immemorial.
But when you got two guys who both have the right team around they’re going to make sure that neither they’re going to both gon na try to make sure neither one of them gets screwed, or at least they’re gon na make sure their own people don’t get Screwed – and that turns into you me, graham and everybody else here, sitting on our hands and waiting going like like six months ago, you guys said we were like weeks away.
What are we doing here come on guys, but again it’s part of the game and that’s that you’re, just seeing in sadly really slows real time.
It’S it’s what that actually works out to what the bureaucracy of this works out to.
We just want to see two guys two guys in the ring pound the [ __ ] out of each other yeah man.
Everybody wants the kids.
Everybody wants to see it so bad that, like people are starting to spread rumors about the thing man, oh it’s on.
It’S off it’s on it’s off like yeah.
Just you know what let’s get the deal done.
Let’S see these guys smash the crap out of each other.
I think it’s when tyson fury puts down his pint glass and goes back to the gym.
That’S when i’ll believe something is actually going to be happening.
Well, apparently, he’s getting in uh he’s getting in the gym uh soon with uh.
Well he’s getting 12 points a day as well, according to him so well.
Well, according according to his uh, his little minion uh, mr mr patty, donovan uh they’re getting in the gym and they they just started man.
They started their their campaign.
Part of me, are they just drinking in the gym? Is that where he’s consuming the pie, they, probably they probably got pints? Is it jim’s bar jim’s pub jim’s cavern which, which establishment is you got ta start with, that weight, training right? Oh there we go yeah a raise into the wrist to raise another rest.
Get him go, get him happy belated saint patrick’s day, tyson, fury, yeah right, oh yeah, yeah! I hit him up on twitter, told him to have one or two or 25.
For me sure he did i’m pretty sure he did not well.
I did well yeah.
The 12 was a normal day, so st patrick’s day, i’m like yeah you’re, doubling it for sure for sure.
He’S gon na go at least pine for point with katie taylor for sure yeah man.
You know you know you know they’re in there.
They’Re cheering together man.
They all are.
I try.
Oh man, hey.
We should start a pipe.
We should start a plate league.
That’S what we should do.
It’S been tried, as the champ calls them cricket, [, Laughter ].
I mean he’s what six five six six! Six! Seven, something like that he’s a monster he’s twice as big as me and uh any any boxer shorter than him.
He’Ll call him a cricket.
We we i mean we just go on bite size, but anyway, anyway.
Alrighty, so does that wrap up our entertaining episode of the friday night panel? Yes, it does.
I guess i believe so i believe so want to take us out with the trifecta there.
Mikey yeah man fight fans, thanks for tuning in friday, christian graham guys go watch.
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Looking forward to it.
Oh yeah me too see you next friday.
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