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EPISODE: Episode 1
Join me as I sit down with Professional Boxer Mea Motu the current IBO Super Bantamweight World Champion from New Zealand! I’m the amateurs Mea was 5X New Zealand champion, winning 2 junior titles & 3 elite senior titles. She also won the World Boxing Event called the Ringside Bowl World Championships. Mea made her pro debut in 2020 & so far holds the IBO Super Bantamweight World title & is a 4 Division Nee Zealand Champion! She holds more New Zealand titles than any other female boxer, she broke the 14 year record set by Daniella Smith for holding the most titles in February of 2022! Please set your reminders and join in on the conversation!
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What’S up everybody how’s everybody doing tonight, it’s your girl, no mercy here, it’s Tuesday night! So you already know what time it is.
It’S time for no punches pulled with me, no mercy.
Some of you probably already know who I am for those of you that are new here – welcome.
I am your host Brooke Millbrook, Formerly Known in the fight game as Brooke no mercy deardorff.
I am a retired professional boxer.
I held the WBC lightweight title until I retired and I was inducted into the international women’s Boxing Hall of Fame last year 2022.
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I have been through some good some bad and of course, you all know a lot of BS in the sport of women’s boxing.
Welcome to my platform, this is where we talk the talk and we walk the walk, we’re going to bring out the truth behind the scenes in women’s boxing you’re gon na hear from pioneers of the sport past boxers current boxers, even future boxers we’ll be in down And dirty speaking, the truth of what takes place in women’s boxing.
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So you don’t miss a single episode every year, every Tuesday night here with me, no mercy, but hopefully y’all already saw.
We got a special guest in the house tonight.
Mia Motu, the current IBO super bantamweight world champion out of New Zealand uh in the amateur game.
She was a five-time New Zealand Champion, winning two Junior titles and three Elite senior titles.
She also won the world boxing event called the ringside Bowl World Championship Mia made her Pro debut in 2020 and so far holds the IBO super ban away world title and is a four division: New Zealand Champion y’all.
She holds more New Zealand titles than any other female boxer.
She broke that record of a 14-year record set by Daniella Smith for holding the most titles in February of 2022.
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Please help me welcome Mia Motu to the show, what’s up champ, how you doing good.
Thank you thanks for having me.
Yes, thank you for joining me.
Um.
I had spoke with Michael Orr and he was telling me all about you and I’m like yeah.
We got ta have her on my show.
I I know you’ve been on the show here, but not with me not with me, so it’s a pleasure to have you on how have you been I’ve been really good.
Thank you.
Good good um women’s boxing channel is already chiming in says you’re.
A damn good boxer, puncher good range combos, has lots of power excellent Bodywork and has a Killer Instinct.
That sounds familiar.
I love it thanks for joining women’s Boxing Channel um, so I always like to kind of take it back.
Rewind go back to the beginning, tell everyone a little bit about your childhood and what led you to boxing.
I grew up with a big family.
I grew up out in the bush and the native growing in the sea water.
I love diving and pig hunting, as I love catching my own seafood and yeah.
I was just brought up with um family and was really close to my family, and then I just we we’re into over here in New Zealand we’re into rugby and league.
And that was like the two big things over here and I wasn’t really into it and then I found boxing and I just found a passion for it at the time I was just enjoying how it put a lot of challenges and the training is definitely one Of the hardest Sports I’ve ever done so yeah most definitely yeah.
I tell everybody um boxing is the only full body workout like from head to toe that I’ve ever done, and I’ve done just about all the sports.
There are um, so boxing full body head to toe you’ll hurt like I’m like you’re hurting places.
You don’t even know you could hurt.
So if you want it do boxing yeah um, so the first time you stepped into a boxing gym.
I know that the boxing scene is totally different over in New Zealand than it is in the United States um.
But did you have any the first time you went to the gym? Did you have any issues being female um? Do they treat you different over there? Coaches, other Fighters, or is it just pretty even across the board uh? It was pretty even and they didn’t treat me any different.
They just treated me because I was such a tomboy back then as well, so they literally treated me like a boy.
Okay, all right.
Yeah, I know a lot of people in the US have well back.
You know back when we were younger or even in my time, um they weren’t so welcoming to the to females um.
So it was a challenge trying to find a a good home gym that welcomed you with open arms instead of just treating you kind of like an outcast being female um.
So did you tell us a little bit about your amateur career, a pretty impressive amateur career? I know you didn’t have a huge, Amber amateur career similar to me.
I only had 15 fights as an amateur and then went pro um, but tell us a little about your amateur career.
What was your favorite memory from the amateurs um? I was very in and out I never really took a seriously.
I just did it for fun, and I just did it for like to keep my fitness up and just to keep my mind occupied really and then, like my, my career was like everyone always tell me like I’d, be really good at boxing, but I just never Took it serious, yeah yeah, I just couldn’t, it would like I’d, get frustrated and be like.
Oh, I give up and I’d just be back and forward so yeah that was my amateur career.
My favorite moment was would have been when I popped my shoulder and I didn’t realize they had popped out and I still carried on fighting and I was like looking at my hand like why is it wiggling it wasn’t until after the fight, I realized? Oh, it’s popped out, so I just threw it back in myself: yeah yeah.
I have definitely dislocated my shoulder, but not um, not in boxing playing football with boys um when I was like, I don’t know, 16 or 17, and they tackled me like full-fledged, tackle me, and I that was that’s pretty painful – that with the separated shoulder um yeah.
So yeah I can imagine um.
I always tell people because yeah they always ask me like when you get cut or I’ve had lots of broken noses, um just different things, but the adrenaline, the adrenaline rush is so high.
When you’re fighting that you don’t not that you don’t feel it, but you don’t fully feel the pain until like afterwards, so you can, you can bear it and grit through the pain.
I guess yeah, you don’t really feel it all the way.
So I can imagine that wasn’t too hard to do um.
Well, you had several amateur titles, though um did you have like a favorite title that you held that was kind of like special or they were just no big deal.
No, no big deal to me.
Gosh yeah take it serious, yeah uh.
Let’S see women’s boxing channel is chiming in over here and says Mia oozes happy place.
I can tell she does look very happy.
Doesn’T she I agree uh, while discipline shoulder your adrenaline must have hidden the pain? Yes, I tell people that daily, I don’t know, I’m sure it’s the same for you, but when you’re, when you have that much adrenaline in a fight I mean like I tell people, I feel it like.
I know like when my nose go got broke or when I got a cut, but the Pain’s not really fully there until you’re back in the dressing, room and you’re kind of like calm down and then you’re like dang.
That actually really hurts.
I might want to get that.
That’S so true, though yeah like in the middle of the fight, it doesn’t hurt, you don’t feel anything no after after yeah it’s after when you’re kind of like your heartbeat, calms down and you’re like settled down and you’re, like.
Oh I’ve even been cut before didn’t even know.
I had a cut.
Yes, I’m like, I can’t feel it doesn’t feel like a cut yeah.
I don’t yeah, I didn’t even know um uh, the the blood was flowing to the side.
So I really didn’t.
Even I didn’t even know I had a cut until afterwards, I’m like you got ta go, get stitches, I’m like why and they’re like you got a bad cut and I’m like okay, let’s go yeah, let’s go get that taken care of um.
So after the amateurs, then, what made the decision that you decided? You wanted to go pro and start really taking it seriously.
I actually didn’t make the decision.
I was.
I just wanted to go back to boxing for Fitness, because I just finished having a baby.
Okay – and I was like would have been like a couple of months three months, my daughter would have been, I think, and then I was just like okay, I want to do some Fitness and then I reached out to my coach Isaac Peach and he was like Straight away, he I shut up and he’s like okay you’re going pro, and I was like.
Is he joking like I was so anti-pro? I was like I’m not going pro.
I can’t punch, I can’t fight.
I was like this guy’s crazy, but I gave it a go and I was like okay I’ll.
Do them all I’ll, give things a go, so I gave it a go and the first taste man that was that I did not look back.
I was like nah.
This is where I like, like that’s my happy place being in the ring.
Yeah yeah.
That’S I it’s hard to explain to people the difference.
It’S it’s a it’s on.
It’S an undescribable experience.
I guess if you haven’t ever done it and I always tell people they’re like well, how do you turn it on and off, and I said I don’t know it’s just like a switch like.
I can be perfectly normal and a mom and all that stuff.
But when, when you get in the ring, it’s you’re a totally different person like yeah, tell people, I guess I have, and I don’t really but like split personality, because you literally just turn it on and off, like you actually do that.
I know people freak out.
They like, how do you switch from being this happy nice mere to like going to into the ring and being like this crazy fighter.
Yeah, I don’t know, I just said it’s just you either have it or you don’t, and I guess we’re just a little.
I don’t know, I guess, I’m just a little crazy in the head to be able to do so, and I’m always like it’s not that I want to go, get punched in the face.
It’S just.
I, like the rush of it, yeah the feeling that you get yeah, but most people wouldn’t even they don’t even think they’re like there’s no way you were a boxer and I’m like yeah for like a long time.
I was for years and years um, but it’s just a totally different you’re totally different person.
I guess is the only way to describe it.
Um.
Let’S see we got Michael Orrick horse chiming in talking well he’s talking to women’s Boxing Channel.
Oh, I think they’re.
Just talking to each other yeah they’re, just talking to each other, I just kept selling messages flow through there and I’m not they’re talking to each other, have a good conversation, fellas um, so not long after your.
You turn pro, though um.
Only your sixth Pro fight, you won your first New Zealand professional boxing Association, lightweight title um, tell us a little bit about that fight and what the first title meant to you um that one meant a lot for me.
I I was the like.
First time I’ve ever seen about like a professional about so I was like oh my gosh, that like looked like treasure, you know when you see gold, that’s what it looked like and I was like.
I am not losing this.
I am going out full speed and yeah.
I was so hungry for it.
I just wanted to.
I wanted to destroy her yeah and I went out there and I was shocked myself for like that’s how I felt in my mind, but I didn’t know I was going to actually execute it and do it so I was like I was so shocked.
I was like so happy jumping for joy and I was just like man.
I made the right decision for sticking into professional boxing, yeah sticking with it absolutely.
I know I always dreamed of fighting like overseas anywhere when I was fighting just because boxing is so much bigger, yeah right than it is in the US for women.
I can’t say like it probably is all together.
I guess we’re early, but women had so many opportunities overseas.
Is it pretty big? Is it the women seem pretty big over there in New Zealand too? No, not really! No, so you had you.
Are you only you fought outside in New Zealand before, though, right yeah? I have okay yeah.
I just remember there was like back in my time um.
What was her name? It was menzer.
I can’t remember her first name, but she was from overseas um and had a lot of the titles that was in my weight class and I never could get a fight with her.
But I always really want to go because the pay was better.
The the crowd was better like the like, when they would come out for the ring walks.
They always just have like flames and fire and oh wow.
Why can’t we have that here? Like yeah? It’S just.
It was so intriguing to me like we’re supposed to be the United States, like it’s supposed to be like that here, and it was for the guys just not for us back.
Then it’s definitely getting better, though yeah it is.
I know that you wrapped up those short in a short period of time for division, New Zealand champion um in four different weight classes, which is awesome.
I know I had to go up and down and wait class.
I fall anywhere from 122 to 135, just to get the big fights um yeah, but you do hold more New Zealand titles than any other female in New Zealand.
Now breaking that record, how does that feel? Oh, that feels amazing.
I like, I don’t think I would.
I could break it because I was like wow.
This is quite a hard one to get so I shocked myself.
I was so surprised I was like and when I got the more I was like.
Oh man, I’m not stopping.
I’M gon na keep going and try to get all those titles.
That’S why I was like that gave me hope and determination that I can even go for the big about yeah.
Absolutely um.
Do you know the girl that held the titles? Yes, Daniela Smith, she’s pretty heartbroken.
No, she was proud of me.
She was ready.
Okay, you never know.
Sometimes when you break people’s records like if they’re gon na be happy for you or kind of like what the heck yeah yeah.
No, I mean I would be a little bit harder.
I would be happy for someone but yet kind of heartbroken at the same time, because you’re, like man, I don’t have that yeah, but that’s cool, that’s cool that you know her um and recently as recent as um.
Last year, you won the IBO super ban away world title just this past April, actually um.
Congratulations on that by the way.
Tell us about that fight, um, who you fought, how the fight went and how? How does it feel to win your first official like World title um, I’m still trying to um like taking that in taking it in it’s still yeah, it’s all like.
It doesn’t feel reality yet has it hit me like to me? It just seems like a fight and it’s just another fight that I just keep rolling on, but yeah yeah.
It’S definitely I’m trying to keep.
I keep forgetting that I hold that world title and it’s it’s quite amazing and I’m really grateful.
But at the same time, it’s just I’m trying to get up that platform yeah.
I know so it hasn’t yeah.
It hasn’t.
It hasn’t sunken in yet hasn’t sunken in yet um.
Who was the opponent that you faced? Was it a a close fight? Was it an easy fight? How did how did you feel that fight way, uh uh, I was – it was a hard.
It was a good fight.
It was more of a challenging fight because I was trying to figure out what was going on with with me.
So when I was breathing and stuff I was like trying to like figure out what’s wrong with my body like.
Why is it? Why is it hurting and I’m not even she hasn’t even hit me and then I realized I wasn’t taught after the fight.
I went for a scan a week later and I had a broken rib.
Oh no yeah that has been rough yeah and it was.
I broke it not in the fight before it’s firing, probably yeah, and I know exactly I just thought it was like you know.
I thought oh it’s my age, getting for me like, oh, and I was like damn it, I’m getting old, that’s how I felt yeah, but no – and I was like oh no, it’s just a pulled muscle or something I’ll be fine.
Yeah you’re, like I’m fine, yeah, and then I get into the fight, and it’s just it’s it’s it’s killing me yeah.
This will make it hard to breathe like hard to move like everything is off.
If you’re ready, yeah yeah.
I thought I thought I was fine and then I was like, why is it hurting and I was like wasn’t too after the fight I was like now I got ta get this checked went to go, get it checked, and then they told me – and I was Like I was so angry at myself and frustrated because I was like damn it, I literally thought it was my age yeah, I’m getting old, I’m hurting yeah, so yeah challenging fight, definitely challenging trying to breathe and trying to hold on in the fight with that broken Rib and I got through it, that was the main thing yeah I at times I was like what’s wrong with me, but because normally I can just switch, but it wouldn’t.
Let me and yeah so Tanya Tanya Walters was her name really good fighter.
She was shorter, so she was just handing me there constantly yeah banging.
I didn’t want to get low or anything I didn’t even want to bend down to throw up, because I just wanted to keep all my bunches straight yeah.
It was oh, my gosh.
I’Ve never had a program, uncomfortable yeah, it’s so uncomfortable and I cut I was just so shocked and then, after that I was like.
Oh my gosh, I’m so glad I got through the fight yeah.
Well, that’s phenomenal, though, that you did it with a broken rib and you still came out on top yeah and you’re, not you’re, not too old.
No, I know I’m not too old age is just a number yeah.
This is a number um I mean I I don’t know I would have kept on fighting by trying to think I was Pro I would.
I was only in my third like mid-30s, when I retired, but that’s because I got pregnant with my second daughter, oh yeah, and I was like so now.
I have two kids and I was like um.
I already had the WBC Title.
They’Re, like I wasn’t getting like Fair decisions like it was just ridiculous, so I was like and I wasn’t making any money then um.
The most I ever made was four thousand dollars for my WBC Title in Mexico, whoa yeah.
So um I was like you know.
I love it, but I should think about my kids safety.
I have two kids now you know I had the WBC.
That was like my dream, so I was like yeah, I’m gon na call it quits, but I I think about it a lot these days with the way that things are going for the women the last probably, but I just had another son two years ago, he’ll Be two in June, so I’m not nearly anywhere.
I need to be as far as shape goes, but I I would love to come out of retirement.
Age is just a number, but just because of how well women’s boxing is doing right now, it’s it’s starting to uh come back, but I think I’ll be 42.
Next month.
I think I’m uh, oh wow, you’re a little bit too old, I’m getting a little bit! Yeah, I think I’m past that threshold, but makes you want to um.
Let’S see, I’ve got a bunch of comments.
I think we missed.
Let’S see uh women’s Boxing Channel says I love to see Mia work in the UK, which I think could do great promo for New Zealand, like the Aussies, are doing.
What’S your opinion on that Mia? Oh I’d, love to, of course, anywhere.
That’S going to make me grow and make me fight.
I just love fighting.
That’S that’s my happy place, that’s what I enjoy so if I can get in the ring and just keep fighting and that’s what it’s going to do for me.
I’D love to yeah that that sounds like a good opportunity for sure Michael Orr says United States.
The fan base is to corporate.
I know Michael I’m just saying it would be nice to see that here, for a change is all I’m saying.
Uh women’s Boxing Channel also said it also worked well for Lucy.
Is it will heart of Sweden? I think she is maybe from Sweden not familiar with her.
I know you know who she is.
Probably I’m not familiar with her she’s, probably a newer fighter.
Uh Mia women’s Boxing Channel says Mia 33 ain’t old for women.
The most successful age for women or for World titles is currently on average of 38.
Believe it or not.
I would 100 believe that women’s Boxing Channel yeah, I would 100 believe that for women – maybe not so much for the men but women exactly mid to late 30s.
I would honestly agree with that.
I agree yeah um yeah, I mean, like I said, I’m about to turn 42, but had I not had another kid, I probably would still be fighting actually two more two, more kids since then, but yeah uh 35.
I meant oh she’s issue.
35.
Are you 35 33? No she’s, 33 women’s Boxing Channel.
You were right, the first time yeah yeah, very true WBC, yes, Michael fine, come out of retirement and all and all light up fireworks for you, light fireworks for me, retirement you’re, gon na come to my my venue and light fireworks for my ring walk.
I will like that that would be so exciting yeah.
That would be fire.
I I need some money with that too, though, can you can you pay me? Can you pay me Michael yeah, not four thousand, not four thousand dollars.
I need like three things.
Like three figures at least yeah, at least you know you I could feel I could fill the seats Michael.
I know I could fill the seats.
I know it would take.
It probably have to have a couple warm-up bites, though, to get the fans back, because I’ve been gone for for 10 years.
I think it would take a little while uh, but there’s a lot of people coming out of retirement.
Now, though, from my era, so it’s exciting to watch, there is yeah, there’s a lot of them coming back.
I don’t know, Michael that’s a lot of work, it’s a lot of work and I’m about to be 42 and I’m feeling 42 with a two-year-old running around.
Let me tell you, I don’t know um, do you have any fights in the near future? Do you have anything scheduled right now? Yes, my next fight will be in August.
Okay, of course, I think it is or 26.
okay um.
Do you have an opponent already or are you defending your title or whatever title yeah? Okay, I think they hit opponent, for they did have an opponent for me yesterday.
So okay, nice yeah, nice, nice um! Well, I was gon na say: do you have any Fighters that you’d like to call out or that you really want to fight soon? Is the is your opponent, one of the ones that you wanted to fight next? No, I just I’m not really fast.
To be honest, anyone that’s got the belts, I just want the more and I just want to fight anyone, and I want to fight the best to be the best.
That’S my mentality, that’s how I view boxing like I just want to fight the best and that’s the only way I’m going to grow as a fighter.
Yeah absolutely totally agree with that.
Um are there a is? It are the belts all spread out for your weight class right now.
I’M not really sure of that or is.
Does somebody have more than one or are they all spread out? They’Ll they’re all spread out, I think um.
I know Mexican’s got the WBC, I think, and is that Venezuela’s or their agent today’s got WBO.
I think, and then um you got.
You got a few people she’s the closest one to me: she’s, Australian, she’s, kiwi, Australian, okay, yeah.
So that would be that one.
Hopefully, will be one of the next on the radar.
Oh definitely yeah, she’s, the closest yeah, but you’ll have at least three or four people before you can get them all wrapped up.
At least a man it’d be nice if at least one person had at least two of them, but hey you got time, yeah yeah! You got time one at a time, one at a time yeah you got you’ll, get there um.
Who were you? I think you said one already, who are your uh, some of your female Idols role models in the sport of women’s boxing uh, definitely Daniella Smith, who I used to train with as well, and who trains me in the amateur scenes as well.
So she kind of paved the way for me, and especially here in New Zealand, and she just gave me the growth of determination to be a proud young Maori woman to compete in box pro boxing, which I thought I could never do so.
She gave me the Faith and Hope so yeah I’ll definitely have to say Daniela Smith, okay, nice and that’s awesome, because because you just broke her record, so yeah yeah she’s really proud of you for that, especially me, and she mentored you and was helping you with That so I could totally see her being happy for you in that scenario.
Uh.
Let’S see, I think they gave us all the rankings so BoxRec number one emilus.
Is it Mercado? Oh, yes, yeah interim World vacant.
Oh interim Road vacant ibf world is sure Nika Johnson yeah IBO world is you obviously WBA girl Gold World Vape is vacant the WBA? Oh, so so we got a couple of vacant belts.
Maybe we can get just a title fight with somebody that has one and they could throw in some vacant ones.
Yeah once superworld vacant WBA world is Marilyn Rivas.
Oh, yes, that’s her yeah! That’S the one WBC interim world is vacant.
Wbc world is jamilith Mercado, W built into our own world vacant WBO world.
Secondly, I don’t even know how to say that, Michael, we need a translation.
He knows how to say everybody’s name.
Oh my gosh Library.
I don’t know, I don’t know that you have the F world, my I can’t say their names, I’m so sorry, ladies, if you guys are watching, I don’t know how to pronounce your name.
I don’t want to mess it up, um, but there’s a lot of vacant.
Titles definitely a lot of things.
They went oh well they’ve just they might have just gone.
They can.
I don’t know.
I didn’t know that yes, uh she’s, French Lefevre.
He broke it out for me, oh yeah, can you see the chat on the side? Oh yeah? Okay, yeah, he like broke it down in segments, so so I could say it.
But there is a lot of vegan titles which is really interesting, because you could always do a big fight to maybe defend yours, fight them for theirs and then throw in some vacant.
Titles yeah, so that would be nice.
That would be nice all right, absolutely uh.
What do you think um so far of the growth in women’s boxing from say, you know a decade or two ago to today.
Oh, it’s amazing.
I literally the growth of female boxing is amazing.
It’S awesome to see females headlining the main events, yes, which I never thought I’d ever see in my life.
It was always such a male Sport and now women are finally getting the opportunity to headline big events.
Yeah yeah way more fun to watch than the guys.
I’Ve always said that I don’t understand what is wrong with people yeah.
I would 100 rather watch a girl fight than a guy fight any day of the week, because they’re there’s more action, yeah and it’s it’s way more.
It’S like! Oh, it’s just! I can’t even describe it because I just it’s so it’s like you.
Can you get what the girls are trying to do, but with the boys it’s just so slow and frustrating like I mean very rarely, do you get a really good guy every now and then don’t get me wrong.
There’S there’s a really good action, guys fight, but nine times out of ten at least one person is bicycling or moving the whole time and then there’s like maybe 30 seconds of a three minute round, where there’s actually action, otherwise they’re just moving around the whole time And I’m like this is boring and then the girls come on and it’s like action for 10 rounds for the entire 20 minutes.
Like is this non-stop pineapple punch but yeah I’ve been telling people forever, I’m like how can you not enjoy watching females? Boxing is so much more action, it’s so exciting, like I don’t.
How would you not want to like how do you not want to watch this even like back when I was fighting amateurs or it pros, and I’m like there’d, be maybe one girl fight on a card lucky if there was, and I’m just like? How do you not get it like? I don’t know I, oh I A lot of times was the most popular fight of the night uh.
Where I at a lot of the venues I was at um just because there was so much action.
Yeah people were like.
Oh, like wow, I’ve never like really seen one well.
If you guys would put us out there a little bit more or back in my time they used to put people on television because we very rarely got televised.
But then they would put two people that really shouldn’t be on TV on TV and then they just made us look bad and then people are like well, I don’t want to watch that and I’m like well, that’s because you had two people that can’t fight yeah, Not like too, like ranked Fighters or two really good Fighters.
You had just two, I hate to say the word bomb because I don’t feel like anybody that gets in the ring is a bum.
But you know what I mean like they shouldn’t have been on TV.
They shouldn’t have been on TV.
I totally agree so yeah, it’s exciting to actually see big time, competitive fights now on TV instead of just garbage and then and then you’re like well.
I understand why people don’t want to watch it if this is what they see.
Yeah! That’S why that’s not a good! It’S not a good representation of women’s boxing.
That’S not what it’s normally like! No, it’s like going to the temperatures yeah, but the the fights they used to put on it was like going to an amateur show and watching two brand new people who I’ve never fought before.
That is so true, that’s exactly what it is yeah.
It’S like two amateurs, never fought facing each other, that’s what they used to put on TV for women yeah and then, like I’m like even now.
I see some Pro girl fights that are still still new and still coming, but literally, I think they put them on because they’re such a pretty face, but they yeah the card box.
And it’s like that’s nice, but it’s sport, professional boxing.
No, it just makes us look.
Bad totally makes this bag, it does uh uh vacant ring.
Oh the Ring The Ring.
The Ring, though, is vacant.
Also oh wow, Michael Orr, says what I love is that the women are ducking and dodging aren’t.
I’M assuming you meant.
Aren’T ducking and dodging each other yeah, because right now, most they’re most of the top girls are not dodging other top ranked Fighters.
Most of them yeah are doing pretty good with their opponents.
Yes, Michael, I I read you, I got you.
I knew what you meant have you had to.
I know like in my time – and I know it’s way better today, but back in in my time there I had to go through a lot of like BS, like things behind the scenes that people didn’t know about people, don’t talk about being a female um that We had to go through that that nobody knows about or even talks about, really have you had any bad situations or uncomfortable situations that you’ve been in being female not over.
Here I have it not not.
Since I’ve been like professionally boxing.
No, I haven’t.
If you and my last, I did so that’s why I was so anti-boxing and amateur, because I was I was my ex-partner.
I was abused by him so okay and he was a boxer himself, okay, yeah and – and that’s why it took me ages to come back to the sport.
I gotcha that makes total sense, um yeah, I know, and and I’ve had I don’t know if you’ve seen any of the shows, but it’s like a lot of um past fighters on and just some of the stories like from us, older Fighters, things that we’ve been Through it’s like you, got to be kidding me like they would never do that to the guys like yeah.
So it’s always kind of interesting to hear all the different things and I know for ages like I never even told anybody about some of the stuff that I went through, because I don’t want people being like.
Oh you’re just making excuses or oh yeah or something happen or oh you’re, just trying to say that like to save face and I’m so I never talked about it until I started the podcast and now I’m like, and I’ve been retired for over for 10 years.
I really don’t care what people think at this point, but I feel, like our stories, help future Generations or current Fighters um like things to look out for um and things that just aren’t okay, because some people just don’t realize that it’s not normal or that it Shouldn’T be happening, yeah, so yeah.
Definitely a women’s Boxing Channel says it can’t be worse than those two massive lumps that attempted to fight in the YT farce.
I don’t know who you’re talking about, but I know you were on the same page: women’s Boxing Channel we’re talking about the same thing with with uh people that shouldn’t be representing the sport being televised for sure voice to text.
Didn’T do me good that time? Well, Michael, you shouldn’t voice to text.
You should just use your fingers and type it out.
Okay, these two crossover fights between those two men, I’m talking about by the way, disgraceful, promo and dangerous.
In my opinion, it was on the zone oh you’ll have to let me know who they were.
I don’t know if I I don’t think I saw it but uh.
We see that a lot across boxing period I mean I’m not gon na, say, there’s not guys, who I said that are on there that are like what the hell this shouldn’t be on TV, but yeah.
It happens way more for women.
In my opinion, it does yeah absolutely what advice would you give to young girls out there that are listening thinking about getting into boxing? What advice would you like to give the Next Generation Um, my advice would be boxing.
Is it teaches you basic life, skills, discipline and suspect, that’s what I’ve learned and loving who you are yeah like really loving and appreciating you as a person and understanding your understanding, your body and what you, what your mentality, your mental mind and your physical.
You understand how your mind and body works mentally and physically.
It’S amazing.
So definitely my number one thing I would always say to females is don’t ever let someone tell you, you can’t do it believe and go and do it just don’t don’t be a Saiyan? Be a doer yeah.
I like that yeah, don’t be a say or be a doer.
Yes, if it’s something you want to do, you got to just go for it and do it don’t listen to anybody else’s opinion yeah.
I know my dad loves me fighting because I don’t know he’s just a Sports Action guy.
My mom granted my mom was at every every fight.
Don’T get me wrong and I could hear her over everybody else.
Yelling um, but she just did not like it just because I was her.
I was her only daughter and I was the baby and she wanted her um, so she hated watching it, but she was always there and always yelling and cheering um but relieved afterwards.
I guess we should say but um but yeah you just can’t listen to other people.
You just got ta, follow your dreams and do do what you think is best for you, yeah um, and definitely just watch out for things.
Um watch out for things that you know are inappropriate and speak up.
If there’s something definitely speak, use your voice, don’t be afraid to news your voice, because I was that person that always stayed dormant and I would always be ashamed of speaking now.
I’M such I.
I feel like I can be my full potential self, because I’m speaking and I’m using my voice and not being afraid, yeah um and it takes a while for us to get there, especially as females um.
It’S always been driven in in our minds that you know we come second to men or you know we’re supposed to be in the house and cook.
You know back in the day, so that’s just what we grew up with so sometimes it’s hard for us to kind of come out of our shell and speak our mind and let people know things and not feel like we’re overstepping our our place as a woman.
Um so yeah, but once you do it’s like yeah like I can do this yeah um, so yeah I mean it’s hard to speak up, but there’s always somebody you can trust or somebody you can talk to yeah.
Their names are wings and wings versus Boogie LOL.
Well, that’s I mean their names kind of say it all yeah wings versus Boogie.
It doesn’t sound like a fight.
I would have even tuned in to watch YouTubers weighing it combined 56 stone for a fight on KSI versus Joe Fournier undercard.
I didn’t watch that that fight I yeah.
I didn’t watch that one, but I definitely probably would have turned I wouldn’t have even tuned in if it was wings versus boogie.
That’S what I was just thinking it doesn’t even sound right is that there that’s got ta, be their nickname, that’s definitely not their last names.
Why would you do that to yourself just two sparring dummies? That’S all there um, hey Michael! I don’t know I mean you said it, I didn’t so y’all.
Don’T don’t come attack me later.
I’M reading the comments.
Okay, it didn’t come out of my mouth um but yeah.
I hey, it is what it is when you um.
So I know you’ve got plenty of time left.
I know your your goals is all the belts and all of that.
What is the one thing that you most would like to be remembered for when it is time to hang up the gloves that I saved a life that that’s the biggest thing which I’m doing here in New Zealand, I’m just encouraging woman and because what I’ve been Through I’m, using my voice to speak up and um, I’ve already done it and it’s it hits home and it um like it hits me in the heart and it’s it’s very something, I’m very passionate about and also changing the narrative for children absolutely yeah.
I totally agree with that 100 operation, so yeah and I definitely we are definitely on the right path and I know you’re, like your era, is definitely reaping um.
A lot of the benefits that us past Fighters worked so hard for and it’s starting to starting to shine.
But I think this next Generation after the current ERA is really gon na Skyrocket, or at least I’m hoping, I’m really hoping um so yeah.
It’S exciting to watch, and sometimes I sit back and I’m like.
Why couldn’t it just started in my time, but it’s still so nice to see the girls finally getting oh, not complete equality, but we’re getting yeah we’re getting better yeah, definitely getting better um.
Is there anything I had only planned like a for, because originally your coach told me you only had 45 minutes and then he said um your your next scheduled thing kind of passed over, so we could go longer, but I wrote it out so it would be About 45 minutes um is there anything else that you want to talk about, or you want to add or that we didn’t talk about that you want to throw out there or discuss with I mean anything you want to discuss, or let people know about you that I’M proud to be Maori that definitely I’m a proud emotionality of who I am I’m this, like real hori hori here in New Zealand, which would be for you guys, would be someone who likes who looks like a homeless who wears bare feet and holy clothes.
That’S a worry for us, but that’s how I like being I’m just I like being myself, and you know I always say because people say how does it feel to be a champion a world champion and I’m like yeah, I’m the world champion when I’m boxing yeah Outside of boxing I’m just me and more too yes – and I agree with you – 100 with that um totally.
I know when I won the WBC Title.
It was against Mia St John.
It was the second time I had fought her.
It was in Mexico because she wanted the rematch in Mexico um, so I went over there and she was defending the title and I won the fight in Mexico, but I can remember being in Mexico for almost a week because they was boxing is so big over.
There, like I, mean it’s their Die Hard boxing fans, and that was like my best experience, though, was fighting in Mexico because I was coming in as the opponent obviously granted.
She was way more than me, obviously was mean, thank God, but I only got 4K but I was like famous over there, like everybody knew who I was.
I couldn’t leave my my hotel room.
I couldn’t go eat, I couldn’t walk downtown like without being mobbed.
They had like huge signs like on the streets like with with our pictures on it um they had to open.
You know open media day outside they had like a pre-fight weigh-in, but it was like I couldn’t go anywhere without taking photos or signing autographs, and I had never felt that in the United States like very rarely would I get stopped and be someone would know who I was except, unless I was in my hometown, just because they it was a small town, but otherwise very rarely did I get stopped with people like.
Oh my God, like you’re booked like you’re you’re broke like can I get autographed? It just didn’t happen very often, but over there everybody did that so, okay, even like when we were sitting down eating people, would come up and I’m like.
Can we just get it to go like I? I mean it was nice, but I can understand like stardom, like for celebrities like something yeah.
I just need a break like.
I don’t want to go out and pop or like when they’re eating and they’re kind of like.
I don’t want to take photos and pictures right now: it’s not they’re being rude.
It’S just like.
I need to breathe for a minute or whatever family or whatever um, but it was amazing, amazing experience.
So have you fought in in Mexico, yet no.
I would love to fly to Mexico.
Oh my God, yeah yeah! If you the girl, that’s got the the title in Mexico.
If you get to fight her, maybe it’ll be in Mexico.
I don’t know but best experience.
I ever had hands down fighting in Mexico.
Um.
Just because boxing is so big over there and they love all fighters.
Like I said I was the opponent, and yet everybody still knew who I was so it was.
It was very humbling um to be able to actually experience that and and then not experience it in in the United States.
It was just like, like I should be famous here – yeah um, but it was very nice, so yeah if you ever get the chance to fight in Mexico.
Definitely it was a great experience for me anyway.
Um.
Does anybody Michael women’s Boxing Channel? Do you guys have any more questions for Mia um? Like I said originally, her coach said she only had 45 minutes exactly and it’s 46 minutes right now.
So I think I wrote out the show pretty darn well to time that out um, but do you guys have any more questions for her before we start wrapping up? It’S really good to watch this interview with Mia so valuable to relate yes, totally for a real future Hall of Famer and a Hall of Famer on the same show.
Well, there you go so you got current Hall of Famer and we got a future Hall of Famer all-in-one wrapped up on talking fight, Michael Oher set this up.
Amazing amazing, amazing, um person, amazing.
He knows everything.
There is no about everybody in boxing.
That’S why I always ask him for advice, sometimes everything I’ll be like who? Can you tell me about this person, yeah uh? How was oh, Michael Orson, how was fighting in Dubai fighting in Dubai? Well, that was a great experience to be honest.
How flash was that that that place is so amazing, like it’s so Flash and they they had everything set up.
It was just I felt out of place because I was like this is too flash for me yeah.
I had the fireworks too, the flying he’s a fire yeah see that’s what I’m talking about.
I never got that, but I’ve seen it and I’m like that’s so awesome yeah.
So I was like wow.
It was really.
It was actually a.
I loved that fight.
I really that’s one fight.
I did love, that’s awesome, yeah.
I never did fight in Dubai, but that that’s awesome yeah.
I always was like man.
I just want the Flames like when, when you come out, you got all the flames and, like your huge picture like on the board behind you, yeah yeah, well good for you, that’s awesome! Um! Let’S see you don’t want to! You don’t want to piss him off who who don’t? We want to piss off Michael women’s basketball goal thanks for everything guys.
I appreciate you women’s Boxing Channel, as always for chiming, in thanks for tuning in and watching thanks for your support, um and thanks for always sharing who I’m having on the show on your pages.
I really appreciate that.
What’S up um D Garcia, you came a little late, who are you fighting next and when she’s fighting August 4th or 26th yeah versus um she’s, not for sure the name, but I think it was just announced she said yesterday, so it should be coming out soon.
Yeah, I don’t know 100, they haven’t locked it in so there’s two girls, but yeah.
They haven’t locked it on yet so, okay, yes, it should be out in in release in the news soon who she’s fighting next, but it is August 4th or 26th.
She said um Michael says: don’t worry Brooke, I told you if you come out of retirement.
I got you on the fireworks.
Well, I need fireworks.
I need a little more fireworks, though, to come out of retirement.
I’M gon na need some money yeah.
The highways are so cool, get some sponsors sponsors money, Michael.
You hooked me up with some sponsors, a promoter.
That’S gon na pay me some sponsorships and some fireworks and we’ll talk about me coming out of retirement uh.
She knows what ain’t revealing LOL! No, she doesn’t.
No, I don’t think she said they signed someone.
Maybe yesterday it was between two different people: yeah um.
Her coach is Isaac yeah, he he may know, but it should be out shortly deal Michael you, let me know you got my number um Mia, tell everybody where they can follow your career, where they can follow you on social media and all that good stuff uh.
They can follow me on Instagram and Tick Tock and Facebook, um and uh miyamotu or Mia Mia multi.
All right follow me there and you’ll find me all over New Zealand media.
You just need a lineup New Zealand and you’ll find me all over today.
Just Google me yeah yeah Google me just Google me yeah easy yeah.
I always laugh when my kids uh, especially my oldest one, was younger.
She, nobody ever believed her.
When she said my mom was a professional fighting fighter Champion blah blah blah and they’re like yeah.
Okay and my kids are mixed, so it made it even worse, like nobody believed her, and I’m like just tell him to Google me like Google me, and so she would pull it up and they’re like yeah.
That’S not your mom! That’S just some woman! You just looked up and I’m like who does that who’s gon na just look up one person and be like this is my mom like who nobody is gon na go through that trouble to be like yeah.
This is my mom, and it’s really not my mom.
Nobody Does that, but yes yeah like for what like what am I gon na get at? What is she gon na get out of that? Absolutely nothing yeah, nothing at all! She’S! Now a celebrity! That’S a great antidote yeah, I’m serious daytime TV in New Zealand she’s doing daytime TV in New Zealand have to look up some of the interviews for sure yeah.
Well, if you don’t have anything else, you want to throw out or any thank yous.
You want to throw out.
I definitely appreciate you for taking the time.
I know your coach said you’re busy Michael said you’re busy, so I really appreciate you taking the time to come on my show, um and tell a little bit about your story.
I will definitely be following your career and your upcoming fights um, and I wish you nothing but the best on chasing those dreams.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me it’s been an awesome interview, awesome yeah.
I appreciate it so much it’s it’s! I, when I, when I accepted this, doing the show I’m like I will do the show, but I want to interview Fighters like female yeah.
That’S what I will do.
Um, every single female story is so different and so unique, but yeah so and I know a lot of the fighters, so I feel like I, I know a lot about a lot of them, but I always learn new stuff.
So I love I love talking to all the different Fighters and – and it was great hearing your story so I’ll definitely be watching for you and rooting you on.
Thank you all right.
Well, I appreciate it.
You have a great night and tell your coach thanks again for letting you come on.
Thank you for having me all right.
I appreciate you have a have a great rest of your day, because I know it’s Thursday over there right or Wednesday Wednesday.
It’S Wednesday Wednesday, like midday, yeah, it’s Tuesday night here so yeah enjoy the rest of your day.
Thank you.
You enjoy the rest of your night.
I will thank you.
Thank you.
Take care all right guys.
Thank you.
So much for joining me tonight on no punches pool with no mercy.
I hope you all enjoyed Mia, I sure, did um great guest, definitely a ray of sunshine, um bright future ahead of her definitely like Michael said, I 100 agree future world uh.
Definitely future multi-world champion and future Hall of Famer for sure um.
It was great speaking with her learning all about her um.
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