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EPISODE: Episode 4
Holly is joined in the studio by Gemma Richardson, an English amateur boxer who won gold medals at the 2018 Youth World Championships, and the 2018 and 2019 European Youth Championships.
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Foreign [, Music ] welcome to talk and fight with me, holly Donovan, happy Friday uh.
Today we have a very special show, which means we have a very special guest.
So please can I introduce to you the amazing, Gemma Richardson, who is a decorated amateur and you can see in the background her silver medal from this year’s Commonwealth Games.
Welcome joa.
It is lovely to have you here.
Thank you so much for having me I’m looking forward to it.
I am.
It will be great honestly, so we’re already talking before we started our live stream.
We already had already having a chat about the epic fight that was on Saturday live at the O2.
It not only made history in terms of the first ever or female card, but it was actually the most watched, uh women’s Pro fight in history.
Ever it had 2 million viewers just on TV um, and then it also had a packed um O2 Arena.
So, oh, my God, how do you feel about Saturday? How do you think it went? I’M just so happy.
I feel like the lead up to it.
Everybody was buzzing for it.
There was just so much high expectations of it.
I think everyone thought it could be something special, so I think it really like the pressure was on for it to be special and like be as big as what it was, and it truly lived up to the expectations which I think for female sport in general.
Female black boxers is such a major thing.
It’S like this year, I feel like the females are just killing it.
Obviously, with the women’s football, the Euros, the Commonwealth, there was more medals for the females this year than there was for them.
The males, which is the first time ever the show on Saturday like we’re just going up and off and off, and I think like it, was just a mega mega thing and like the atmosphere, there looked amazing like I was gon na watch it on TV.
But I was just so jealous of everyone there, oh my God, it was.
It was absolutely amazing.
I I can honestly say that I have never felt so.
I think inspired is the word like I felt emotional and inspired, and I almost didn’t notice that they were all women, because I was just so caught up it didn’t matter.
It was just like just a night of night.
Nothing like.
I think it’s nice that it’s yeah, it’s so big for for women, but like that people felt like it was just a night of boxing and I think that’s that’s the main thing because in the end it’ll be nice for it to be just boxing.
Not the males, not the females it’ll just be female, would be that big in the sport that it won’t be a competition of like oh who’s.
It would be just boxing because we’re both people in it, which will be, which would be amazing, that’ll, be the best day when it just turns into.
Oh, it’s a fight night, and you know whether you know whoever’s gon na headline, whether it be men, you know yeah one one time, one one time, the other, it’s just normal, which would be nice exactly exactly so on.
Today’S show.
What I’d love to do is to go through some of those fights, um try and put them apart.
I really want to get your opinion actually because well, one of them was very controversial and I really want to know what you thought um.
So we start at the top, shall we start with shields and Marshall um here? Oh my God, what a fight! What did you think? I just think, I think, like I said, there’s a lot of pressure to be to live up to like this big fat.
You’Ve got the number one.
You’Ve got the number two, the boxed as amateurs Sam got, the win Shield doesn’t hasn’t been the um.
I just think it has so much hype and so much like It’s got ta be this perfect fact: it’s a good fight and – and it was – and it was that it was the full fight everyone just had the I think, the eyes glued to it.
I think there wasn’t a part of the fact that was so like boring, like it fully lived up to the height and I I’m gon na put say the fight of the year so fast yeah.
It has everything you wanted in a fight absolutely from that.
First Bell: oh my god, when Clarissa came out, I was, were you shocked? I was really sure yeah.
I can’t believe it.
I was like she just came and straight away like them.
First, I think the first four or five round was shot.
She was fast and I think I think she was everyone had to stop being a stronger boxer in this powerful boxer, but I think uh Clarissa showed so she was stronger than what people thought she was going to be as well in that, and I think Sav Was there the whole way like you couldn’t just be like sad, sad, dug deep in that fight as well, like oh yeah, so the last bell she was not giving in like she was gon na gon na give it all.
There was so much pressure from both Fighters all the way up until the end of that tenth round, then, and normally in a fight.
You have a kind of dip or you have a couple of rounds where you see them slowing down or they’re getting out a little bit.
There was none, there was no, there was, they was fully peaked, they were both and they’re about five weeks lay off yeah.
That’S that’s a hard thing to get over where you’ve peaked and you’ve got to come back down and go back up, but their Fitness was on point that the accuracy, the sharpness everything came together that night for both of them and they had ten twos of just Pure at it, for the time like there was no dip.
There was no odd just go through the motions on this because I’m tired, it was just yeah.
They were tired, but they was they.
You would not guess it with how many shops and how the feet were still and everything like that.
It was just um.
It was just incredible yeah, it was two absolute professionals just yeah and just that you could hardly fault either of them yeah, and even when um I mean Savannah, she she managed to land that really hot, I think, was around seven and uh shields were saying that She couldn’t see out of one of her yeah.
You want to guess any of that, like obviously in every fight you get caught with shots, you get caught with this and your shoulder goes and they’re like you get yeah your eyesight goes, but there was that professional and it meant that much to him yeah.
It didn’t matter what happened in that fight.
They was both gon na, give it the role and acts as if nothing was going on, because this was not only a big night for them, but a Big Macs that all females, I think, they’ve both carried off that off very well for each other.
Oh absolutely, it helps to sport massively, and it’s just amazing women do that yeah.
It was almost as well like you couldn’t.
I couldn’t see nerves from either of them.
They were so composed they, even though there was so much weight on this fight, like you said not just for each other, for the Undisputed there was there was that pressure of this has to be entertaining because yeah the world needs it to be to be.
You know for people to take women’s sport seriously and they were just calm yeah even from that.
The ring walks like not even the fight from like the ring walks and like how how they portrayed themselves with that, and I think, with a with a venue of that many people shouting your name and yeah the nerves like they just handled it and they took It in the Strand and that’s a hard thing to do like.
Oh absolutely, it doesn’t get to you and they just go, took it, and I think they were just that focus and it just pays off like.
Oh, it was amazing, it really was.
I Got ta, Give it to Clarissa actually because, like I obviously I was supporting Savannah um.
Obviously, and the entire stadium was so yeah when Clarissa Shields came out.
I don’t know if you could hear it on the TV, but the booze that she bought was.
I mean it was like it was echoing and screaming Savannah’s name.
While she was doing her room walk.
So all you could hear was Savannah’s name and booing while she was coming out and yet there was no, you know no Flinch.
No sign of he was dancing away yeah.
I do not think she probably expected that obviously she’s come to England, I think booing with the national anthem.
So it’s not a nice thing.
Yeah it’s wrong in the sport like no one should no one deserves to get food, but obviously I think she expected that she’s come to England Golden Girl.
Everyone looks sad.
How can you not love sad she’s, amazing, everyone’s bought tickets to see Sav? It’S a big fight, she’s, the only ghost Beat.
I think, um Crystal probably expected that a bit, but I don’t know, maybe she fries off that in the ring walk like yeah, maybe made it angrier, yeah yeah she was dancing, she was.
She was giving the fans what they wanted, they’re doing it.
She was gon na roll them up, she’s a dance you’re gon na enjoy your moment and and as she should actually should.
She’S worked hard for this as well like yeah.
It was her night as well and for her to come back to England and for one day to fight someone that the fans want.
The English fans want her to win and yeah.
I definitely think she’s got she’s got some respect from the British fans now yeah.
There were certainly cheers at the end.
I think I mean I was close to tears because I was so sad for Savannah, but it was such a.
It was such a Bittersweet moment because I think everybody was out broken.
Everybody was heartbroken for Sav as they were like we all back to.
We all fully believed that she could do it, but on the night it just wasn’t her night, but I think it was such a Bittersweet moment because everyone was so sad for Savannah, but then with the with the two million viewers, the the atmosphere they created.
But how could you be that sad because yeah well and that in history for women’s boxing and females and Sport like it was, it was crazy? It was sort of mixed emotions yeah.
There was a moment at the end, um that I saw where Peter Fury turned to to Savannah Marshall and he kissed her on the head and he was like you’re incredible tonight.
You’Ve made history, and it’s really wonderful, like it didn’t matter that she’d lost it was.
It was just you are incredible yeah and it was uh.
Oh yeah, that’s it, but they both put that o on the line everyone wants to keep, especially the professionals records.
Everyone wants that, oh and they both put that o on the line like to give that to the fans like exactly exactly and I had to be looser.
Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, but that’s all about the whole point exactly.
Okay.
Are you interested in what you said about uh? What’S next for Shields um, because she’s, she said she’s totally open to a rematch but she’s also open to.
We were just talking before the show again, she’s, also open to coming down away and challenging Natasha Jonas.
For all those belts, what do you think about the possibility of that fight? Or what do you want to see? I think obviously, let’s talk about another one.
I think it’ll be nice to seven that obviously they’re speaking about it in America as well.
Yeah Wants It In America, which I think that’ll be that’ll, be Mega.
Unfortunately, if it isn’t America, I don’t even make it to the one in England, so I’m definitely not making it to that.
One.
No hope for that one, but I’m definitely not it’ll, be a TV job for sure for that one, but um yeah, it’s not about coming down, which I think for her.
She just wants as many belts and there’s, which is obviously any athlete’s going to want to um.
I guess it will be interesting, um for Tash, because obviously she’s she’s up now in weights and stuff it’ll, be I just love watching them fight.
So I think I’m not for any fight really I’m telling people yeah, I think she’s an amazing fighter than that and different to Sav.
So Styles make spies and it’s boxing, so you can never be too short.
It’S gon na happen either.
So, just because someone’s won everything, then it only takes one person to come with a different style.
Someone’S have a bad night and it changed the game.
So I’m up for any fight me because you never know what’s gon na happen in boxing absolutely especially if it’s near you well, Marshall, obviously she’s gon na take some time out now.
Um won’t be back until probably the new year um and I don’t know what would be next for Savannah if there wasn’t um a rematch but she’s still at the top of her game.
So I guess it’s the next person who’s knocking exactly she’ll just.
I think she deserves the time off now, some chill time, some family time, some nice food, yeah, the normal life yeah, definitely and then just keep ready for whatever comes whatever comes away.
I’M sure, like her team and that will decide what’s best for her and I’m sure it’s not the last we’ve seen ever.
Oh God, no no way like yeah she’s way too much love way too much, love, Yeah and skill and power like exactly just put it all yeah exactly what about? Let’S have a little chat about um Michaela Mayer and Alyssa bongala.
I’M just gon na ask you straight away.
Who who do you think won you do I I do yeah.
I do think it was a close fight and I do think everyone’s Up In The Air.
I remember going on Twitter after five and it just blew up yeah, but everybody was on about it.
I think everyone’s had their opinions.
I think I’ve gone on every every social media go on, there’s something different.
There’S people finding comments about it, which again it’s not a bad thing for the sport at the end of the day, because I of course speaking about it like yeah.
Obviously, It’s upsetting for me even then, but for the sport in general, everyone’s speaking about him, always brought more attention to it.
Yeah I would totally agree any media.
Bad media is sometimes good media.
Any media is media for the for the sport yeah, but it’s one of them.
I think it.
It depends what you like yeah but yeah, because it was when you were when I was in the stadium, because obviously I was wondering – maybe maybe I just didn’t – have a the right angle.
You know to understand why Elizabeth won yeah, because from where I was Michaela, Mayer had total control of the Ring.
Yes, yeah, that’s the whole thing um and as far as I could tell, unless my eyesight was really bad, she was landing and it seemed like she was dominant and I’m not saying that Alicia wasn’t landing and there were some matches because there were.
But this is what I think this is what I would say is obviously I was watching it on TV people watching from different.
I remember watching fights, live and then watching them back on like a video and thinking, oh because I’ve seen it from a completely different angle.
My opinion changed.
So I’m like people that sat a different side of the venue or set up high or sat, sat at the bottom or watch it on TV.
It depends what angle you see it from and it I do think it.
It is on what you like.
Do you like that box? That’S dominating that’s boxing nice.
I do like them big Power, shots that go in every so often and the eye-catching shots, but but it has caused so much talk and so much of conversations of what people like and it was a good fight.
We can’t we’ve got two top girls there again.
Yeah coming together, like what was we was going to expect that close fight of, I think, whatever different opinions, different of people were thinking.
What was what and how they should have done it and and who won and that, but at the end of the day, it’s the judges that account – and it’s also boxing in today – and these things unfortunately do happen with the spot.
I think everyone knows that by now yeah.
Yes, I think this box.
It’S always it’s sad, but it’s always going to be like that, like people are gon na get decisions that they don’t agree with, but then everyone sees it different.
So then, we’re never gon na get all to.
Does that see the same exactly and it’s also yeah exactly you’re like you’re looking, for I mean, are they looking for ringcraft? Are they looking for power? I’M looking for accuracy? Are they you know? What are they looking? What are they I couldn’t understand what they were looking for either yeah exactly because I honestly I mean you should have.
I did a video if you’re talking right and you it was just an eruption of booze in yeah.
Oh God, could you hear that on TV as well, not as loud as what you could yeah, I just done a video just yeah I just gone um Michaela mayor has definitely won um in the very next second.
They were like at least oh, my God yeah.
I think it’s so upsetting as well like when stuff like that happens and may obviously it’s been tweet and now I think they’ve added a little bit of beef on Twitter and stuff and hopefully it’s another rematch if they take it.
But in that circumstance, would you take it if you was just one when you probably shouldn’t have took it off yeah it’s one of them again, it’ll be nice to see it again yeah.
I think I think it needs to happen, but if it does happen, yeah it’s another question, but it is upsetting for um Michaela Mayo, especially when a lot of people, I think majority of people know she she got it.
I totally agree, and I think it’s and I think the fact that Elizabeth said no.
You know she wants to uh, go and fight fight with joy now, because she wants yeah she’s, refusing a rematch and I feel like.
Are you refusing? Because you know yeah? This was, or you know, in-house, does she really know yeah, and I think professional boxing is a business at the end of the day and yeah should be stupid to be like I’ve got that win um I was lucky like it was a close fight.
Yeah.
Would you would you risk it yourself when it’s you wouldn’t win, you wouldn’t risk it.
Would you I wouldn’t risk it? No, I wouldn’t either I’d take I’d.
Take the way I take the, but I’m off see you later, which you can’t blame it, but they’re familiar.
You can’t blame her for trying to get the rematch, because she knows, and she knows she can do it and on the on a different day with different judges or whatever he would have got it.
He would have got it and that’s the thing I think, but for her I think it’s so nice for her to know that she lost the decision, but I think she won a lot of the fans because a lot of people – and she knows deep down with The fans and that and everyone’s saying it and how everything blew up for that.
I guess it’s nice for her to know.
I said her just losing and being actually yeah.
You did lose like yeah, it’s one of them and it obviously it would have been nice.
Everybody wants that hand raised, but at least everyone thinks she did.
It doesn’t make it better, but we can’t there’s enough people on us either yeah.
She said that she will go up and wait because she wants to fight Katie Taylor, I’m well up for that.
Yeah.
All right, I’m up for that yeah yeah, exactly yeah yeah, I’d love to see that I’d love to um I’ve.
Looking I’ve been looking after spam, okay um in in America – and I think just she is a lovely girl and obviously Katie Taylor she’s female boxing industry.
She’S from 2012 and everything so what a fact that would be and yeah I just yeah, I’d love it just yes and Michaela’s got a lot of British fans as well, so yeah yeah, really cool fight to have in the stadium like yeah, I’m quite up.
So, even if there’s no rematch and she goes for Katie Taylor – I’m yeah what about so? Let’S chat about! We had those three fights with with our Olympians yeah um, Caroline Dubois, smashing it with a TKO in the face um Lauren price TKO as well.
Fourth round that was yeah, um and Karis artisul.
Who said that she didn’t answer, I think she possibly could um for a TKO, but the journey woman that she was fighting just apparently wouldn’t, and what did you think of those guys? I just think they’re amazing.
Obviously I was teammates for them for many years have a line since I was me and family have been like this, since I was 13 with we’ve grown up together, she’s obviously now going to do a professional I’m staying on here.
So it’s nice to see her progress in her professional style and I think she’s shown like how she’s sharp she’s strong, I think she’s brainy with it as well so yeah.
She wasn’t looking for the fish, but when that finish came she took it and she took it well and I think that’s what the clever thing is about.
Sarah, like she can outbox people she she is strong and she can bang them she’s clever, with the shot she froze and when the time’s right she will snatch it and take it, and I think that’s what we saw on Saturday night, she’s, only 21.
She’s, So Young yeah she’s, not even like teacher but she’s just coming through, and I think there’s so much more more for her to give yeah and like obviously I don’t know yes, I know exactly what she’s like and I think we haven’t even seen the best of it.
Yet but she’s showing how good she is, which is amazing, and that part you’re right.
It’S the fact that she wasn’t looking for that finish.
She was just really technical, yeah and then the second It came.
It was like yeah, that’s so good, because I think that’s that shows the boxing brain that she has like if they’re looking for it.
It doesn’t come where, if you just relax – and you just do your work and then that’s how you get the opportunities for it to come and as soon as it helps you to come, she can see, she can read it and she she took it and she Had a great finish – and she finished amazing and yeah, just I’m over the moon for her, I think yeah, that’s what she needed that’s Saturday night.
I think everyone will get on board with her now and that’s pushed her name up a bit higher because she deserves that yeah absolutely and I think she had a proper opponent this time.
I feel like another, the other appendix that she didn’t actually test her yeah.
Definitely where she had someone with a bit of a name this time with yeah she’s being with people um and she performed against her, which is yeah.
Are you friends with Lauren price as well? Yeah, oh she’s, honestly, the loveliest sound to Earth girl you’ll ever meet.
Just she still changed, obviously now in Sheffield, she’s trains of curving Terrace is still based in Sheffield, so obviously we’re with them every week, they’re in comfortables.
So it’s it’s just normal for us to always give.
Obviously I was there when there was on the Olympics and that on the actual GB team, but I’m there with them now with the pro.
So it’s nice to see like that change of um training with them and it’s nice to see characters, love and working on stuff in the gym and then going into the ring and yeah showcasing it and Performing.
And I think loving just showed that she is better than that girl.
I think everyone expected she should be better than a school.
She should be beating this girl because she lived up to that and she did.
She showed that she’s levels above this girl and she’s.
What she’ll do and she got her out and yeah? I love that because quite often you get when you have someone that’s so much better than the opponent they almost kind of sit back and chill out and yeah.
They know that they’ll win Lauren does not see that no she looks like she I mean, thank God, they’re the ref like stopped to fight really because that poor girl was about to be, I mean she was taking it to be fair to her yeah yeah.
These Journey women they are strong and they are like they’re tough and they can get they get it with shots and they come back firing, which, I think is incredible.
I think for Lauren who’s been at the Olympic level and she’s an international figure, she’s boxed, the top girls in the amateurs and sometimes it’s hard to go back down to a level of boxing a girl.
That’S not at that level that she’s used to because you can get drugged into their level or just kick back, relax and, like you said just chill with it, yeah that, like she’s, not off downstairs that level She’s, Not Just Gon na chill with it should.
I do what she used to do: look good with it and show everyone that she is better than this girl and do exactly what she did that night absolutely improved.
I think she’s going to be fast tracked for sure, just like Caroline.
Actually, I think, and then even Charis like she was, I mean the power and the energy that carries.
I mean it was straight in from the beginning and it didn’t stop until the end of France.
He again didn’t Tire.
Didn’T stop! No, oh accurate.
I thought her accuracy was amazing.
Are we back online? Oh hello, everybody that was hilarious and very embarrassing.
I didn’t realize we were back on.
We both got kicked off The call um again and then I I was saying how I was going to say.
Oh welcome back to part two [ Music, ] hello and welcome back to talking about with honey, Donovan um and the Epic um Jim Richardson, who has joined me for this special show: um debriefing, the amazing Fight Night with shields and Marshall on Saturday um.
So there you go smoothly back in right.
There, yeah um, we were just talking about Karis art install, so we were talking about our paralympians and Gemma is lucky enough to still train with someone and have trained with them with Team GB.
So Charis tell me about her skills, Paris.
I think everyone knows he’s strong.
I think that’s what, when she was the amateur everyone thought I’m encouraging strong.
She was a Southport with that bat and land.
Then it hurts trust me, that’s bad.
At that times, I felt it when she shouted She’s Fit and she’s on fight form.
She is strong, but it’s not if she has got the boxing ability and she is switched on there and she’s Technical and the little movements that she does and that brains that she gets.
It works in her favor and I think yes, she so badly wanted that with the knockout and that fight and anybody’s gon na wanted that in a professional fight, especially that night of all female females, she is strong.
She has got the power to deliver the Knockouts and she has got that and I think especially, that weight she’s, so she’s, so big and strong at that weight and she has got that power, but that girl was just so he’s talking about anywhere.
She was taking those shops and asking okay.
I feel sorry for this last night.
She just needs to go down down to save yourself a headache tomorrow, but you can’t take away from Carlos’s skill as well like she’s, skillful she’s got the boxing brain.
She knows what she’s doing she hasn’t just got the strength of a light on she’s got it all up, combined into one that every shot she throws is sharp and powerful, and that’s a dangerous combination to have yeah it’s having fun yeah.
That’S what I really saw with her.
I was like it’s that combination yeah.
You know the speed, the power and the accuracy all of those and got it all.
Yeah yeah, like I said that she just kept going like power normally like it slows down as the rounds go on, you lose that power and you throw your shots, but they ain’t got, Curry thousand Karis keeps it and I think that’s because she is so fit And she has, the chain has gone right and she takes it so seriously.
She uses her best features to her ability and she’s kept back to the full round, which is amazing to see yeah.
It really was, she didn’t guess out at all and she said um, her opponent uh.
She actually like blew well.
She stuck her tongue out at her in round two as if to be like you can’t get me and it just made Charis even angrier and it’s more determined to be like yeah yeah little thing like that, which anyone would, if anyone’s sticking their tongue out with Someone it’s like, oh my God, like it’s irritating and obviously as a journey woman, she’s gon na do little things like that to to get the crowd going to get characters going and it makes the atmosphere it makes the fight come to life a bit more.
So for that to happen and characters want to get it yeah, it’s annoying that she didn’t get it because she has got the ability to get these Knockouts and that, but that girl was I’ll, give her a credit.
She was tough, but it was incredible, very still performed.
Well.
She’S still got the rounds under her belt, which is good because you’re gon na need them for harder fights later on yeah.
She did it with a good performance which is which is good to see like she can’t be dishant with that, oh God, no, I think she she gave an incredible performance yeah.
I think everyone that night gave just everything there was nothing left.
They left it all.
In that ring just everything they had, what do you think about um? So a lot of people are saying now uh.
What’S the next step, you know how do we keep momentum and there’s a lot of talk about going to three minute rounds? I know that you guys do that in the amateurs anyway um others saying that maybe we should go in the middle.
I heard Hannah ranking the other day say: oh, let’s do 12 two minute rounds.
That’S like a stepping stone.
What do you reckon? I personally think like three minutes.
I think I should bring it in.
I think I think a lot of the women would agree with the three minutes.
I think look at Karis.
I think if she had three minutes, yeah sure yeah, I think, taking that power for three minutes and taking them shots for three minutes.
It’S going to be our standard.
It’S going to be hard to stand up against that, like Carrie’s got it in there for the three minutes like and that’s what in amateurs you box three, it’s only three threes, but you box three minute routes, it’s from the age of like 16.
, so it is An awesome we can do and I think they should give the females that chance to do it, so I think it would spice up a bit and I think you would see more Knockouts than that, because the longer the round goes, the tired people get the shots.
The shots, I think I think they should do it, because I think we are capable of doing the three minutes and I think a lot of female one females want three minutes, so it would be nice.
I mean Fitness.
Fitness isn’t really something that you can divide between Sexes.
You know it’s not like it being able to do.
You know run for two minutes or three minutes, that’s something that men can do whenever they can’t, because everything’s so fast tempered in that world.
The three minutes: you can look after that that two minutes – and I know like it’s easy for us to say watching it, but it goes so quick then rounds goes so quick and obviously I don’t know if that’s because I’m watching it as two minutes and I’m Used to boxing three minutes myself and obviously I’ve watched Paris, Caroline and loving box, three minutes yeah.
It was like last year in that um.
So it was weird seeing them do two minutes now, but I just think they go so quick and just when, like the rounds getting going and stuff the bell’s going, so I think three minutes would give it that extra.
That extra minute is a long time for things to change, in fact, very quickly, so it’d be nice to see some Freeman.
I think it’ll change up for the people.
Someone like Katie Taylor.
I know that she has said you know she spent no.
No.
I want two minute rounds.
That’S why I’ve been a champion at for years now, um yeah! I wouldn’t want that change, but then you get so many others that are like no, this.
This is brilliant.
For me, this is what I’m used to.
This is yeah.
I think I think yours will have a mixed opinion.
Some people are going to want to keep the two minutes deep down like maybe the two minutes does suit me, or maybe the three minutes does suit me like.
It depends your Styles and how you are and stuff like that.
So it’s going to be one of the big things where again, everyone’s gon na be divided on what it should be, what it shouldn’t be yeah, but I’d like to see some three minutes.
But I’m saying that personally because yeah no, I agree.
I would like to see it because I’m always pushing for that, equals yes, and so for me, it’s just an obvious thing: it’s like yeah! Well, you know if yeah, okay, now they’ve proved that women can sell out a night and prove that it can be really entertaining, and you know globally talked about well now.
Can we have more time as well then like, let’s, let’s change it up again, let’s see if they can live up to that, and I think they will live up to that yeah.
Oh exactly exactly! I wanted to ask you actually well.
I’Ve got you here because last week, uh well a couple of weeks ago, on the show I was talking about um the Olympics, um being taken away essentially yeah.
You know uh well boxing as a sport being taken away for the Olympics and you’re the perfect person to ask because you’re there you know you are team, GB like how what’s this gon na do.
Is it I think it’s the 10 bucks in drastically? If it does get taken away, I think it’s such a shame.
It’S been in the Olympics for the lads for so many years now I think it’s a staple of the Olympics.
I think when I don’t know, if I’m just in summer box, but when you think of the Olympics, I think of the Athletics you think of gymnastics.
Things like one of them’s boxing yeah and I think for it to be taken away, can change the sport.
So much especially with like can it change Grassroots box and there’s only kids and then boxing gyms, that’s had the dreams of going to the Olympics and now they’re taken away so you’re going to be seeing so many so many people at 18 years old, turning professional.
Maybe not at the right time like as a senior just turned 18, it’s so different to being in with men yeah with smaller gloves with it’s a big jump and a lot of people.
It’S a big risk to take that a young age I think amateur boxing is an apprenticeship for the professional boxing and I think, to take a big part of that with senior box in a way with no Olympics.
Not many people are going to stay in the amateurs, because there’s nothing for him once they win a Nationals or anything in England at least then what is there as a senior everybody wants that Olympic? So I think everyone’s will be changed, making that change of professionals.
I just think it’s going to be it’s a real, real shame, um, I’m very lucky that I’m old enough and if uh you know yeah.
If I’m, if I’m lucky enough, I can go to this Olympics the qualifiers next year, which is what I’m working towards fingers crossed, but even then I’m only gon na be 23 in that Olympics.
So always in my head was was the 2028 like la la I’ll? Still be yeah like a good age to go to that and then turn professional like there’s.
No there’s no rush in my career, I’m still very young where now it’s like 2028 might not be there.
So I’ll be 23 years old, which is a lot older than some people that’ll be turning just 18 to an international professional, but I think it’s going to change a lot of things and I just think it’s really sad really yeah.
I agree, and I really don’t want it to to happen.
I think it’d be awful.
I thought about you when I heard about it.
I was like oh at least you’ll – get that one yeah I just feel like yeah, even that like I’ll get one, but I think the 2028 I’ve been peaked for like yeah.
I had been a lot older, a bit wise and more experienced I’d been on the senior seeing yourself for a while.
So it is a shame and I think it’s a shame for everyone coming up who’s had the dreams of the Olympics like having all young kids in boxing obviously want to go professional, but a lot of them watch the Olympics and see seeing them with the Olympic Tracksuits and representing the country represent great, but it’s a big thing and I think it’s such a shame that that dream’s gon na be like.
I know it’s like to wear like the GB trucks.
Getting like represent your country and the feeling you get is just insane.
So for that, for people not to be able to experience that if that goes is upsetting to the sport and as well, I think it’ll change a lot from Grassroots boxing, which is a shame, but fingers crossed it doesn’t yeah.
We’Ve got ta comes well.
The whole of the boxing Community needs to come together, yeah and and find a difference, but I’ve read to stay for yeah for all the good it brings yeah okay yeah before we wrap up.
I want to ask about you and I want to find out so how’s how’s your Camp going.
What are you training for right now? How? How is it all going so Alabama? Obviously I had an injury before the commonwealth games um.
I pushed through it and managed to compete there with the injury still very much ad put on this big thing.
The injuries gone, I’m back full of stuff, which is going to obviously you’re, not gon, na post – that oh I’m really badly injured, but I’m still going to Commonwealth Games.
Because you don’t want people to see that.
But at the end is quite a bit worse and, as I was training for the Europeans that are actually on right now, I think the same finals are on today.
Um we had Blac Chyna come over.
We have different countries coming over.
I was training for it and my elbow went completely again and it was just too much of a risk.
I just it.
It wasn’t good like I needed timeout so at the minute.
There’S lots of physio lots of strengths in my elbow lots of just getting my elbow good and I’ll, hopefully be back next year for like a big year next year, with lots of content and obviously the Olympic qualifiers yeah for sure I get picked for that.
And so that’s that’s my aim at.
Let me just get my elbow back right and back, but I’ve got this time now, which is enough more than enough time to get it actually strong again and normal and fats of being 100 fit and then for beginner next year.
Hopefully, oh for sure, and for people that want to um know about gemma’s journey and if you look up uh the fight to fight with Holly Donovan, there is an amazing story from Gemma like it was one of the most moving interviews.
I’Ve done um.
The second thing about how you defied that injury, how you got through it, the support from your family unit, The Inspirations that brought you to to that Championship right there honestly look it up here.
I.
I truly believe that you’re a one to watch like if you can do what you did then, and you got that medal.
We can see it yeah yeah who’s here, who’s there and I, like those those Olympics, we’re going to see you in Paris.
I I absolutely believe that, yes, thank you and then unfortunately, you’ll have no choice but to go pro weekend on Saturday.
You know, Savannah Marshall Shields Alicia Michaela Maya.
They have paved the way yeah by the time I’ve turned over.
Hopefully a woman’s box and we’ll just be a next level, and it would be the same as men’s and it’ll be great yeah and I’ll be absolutely shouting.
Even even if it’s near me, I will, I will take the jail, I will take the journey.
Oh, thank you so much for talking to us.
Thank you for having me thank you and please join um us next week.
Everyone out there and so I’ll, be previewing.
The Katie Taylor fight, which is at Wembley and she’ll, be defending her belts for the brilliant time.
I’Ll tell you the exact number next week, hopefully continuing that amazing momentum that these amazing women this week have done on Saturday, so yeah hopefully join us then – and I will see you uh same time next week – 2PM sorry about the technical issues today, guys I’m gon Na tell everyone out there um, it was all a bit complicated with zoom in a studio and safaris and chrome, and it was sorry about the little break in the middle on purpose.
Even though I was going to try and style it out that it was um.
But join us next week.
At the same time, it will be 2PM live on talking fight with Holly Donovan have a wonderful weekend.
Everybody take care.
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