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EPISODE: Episode 8
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[, Music, ], hello, bugs and fans around the world.
Thank you for joining us once again here on talk and fight for another episode of the friday night panel featuring your friend of mine, tim with spoon and mike orr at 4.
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What was that my fault? My bad, that was a delayed reaction right that was, that was that was that was a little bit technology at its finest all right so who who’s going to start off this? This fine! That’S that episode mike what what we’ve got some good fights coming up this weekend.
Well, we got we got some great fights going on this weekend.
Man, honestly, i’m super excited uh, ramirez and pedro’s.
Ah, is up tonight it’s actually fighting uh, starting at seven o’clock.
Right now is that his name no ramirez versus pedraza.
Oh it’s going on tonight all right.
This card man, i’m super, excited about it.
It just started uh.
You know it’s.
The homecoming of former united junior welterweight world champion jose ramirez uh.
You know just 27 days later than expected: uh the central you know, valley native ramirez, will fight former two-weight world champion jose sniper pedraza in a 12-round main event.
Tonight i can’t wait to get this underway.
Man honestly there’s some great names on the undercard.
For here, a lot of guys that i’ve been following a lot of these uh a lot of these up-and-comers man, one one of them – is uh gon na be antonio morales.
This heavyweight kid who’s two-and-oh right now, uh, we talked about him, he’s six, nine with an 85-inch reach, uh his 24 year old uh and he’s sporting a two two and no record right now with two knockouts and uh.
You know we’re about to see this kid.
In action again tonight man, this big six, nine kid – i can’t wait man, but on this card, though, we also have uh a few other kids that i’ve been watching.
Uh, gabriel flores, jr um, carlos beldareza and uh javier martinez are all on this card.
Uh.
These guys, man, i’ve been watching these kids.
You know, as they’ve been coming up.
They’Re looking to you know, improve their records.
Uh they’re gon na make for great fights tonight, man, so this card tonight guys it’s starting right now, uh you can find it on.
You can find it on um.
I believe i believe you can find it on espn plus and fight tv, espn, plus or or you can keep watching us.
Yes, the card includes featherweight contender, um gonzalez who’s 24 and two with 14 kos against uh, joe santamiza who’s.
Twenty one, three twenty one and three with eighteen kos and a ten rounder uh, the six round: heavyweight professional debut of olympic silver medalist, richard torres jr against gabriel flores, jr uh two and a 20 21 with seven kos.
Coming back in a ten round junior light.
Matchup against adrian montoya, who’s, 22 and 1, with 14 kos, and then you know, rising junior lightweight, like i’m, telling you guys to watch out for man uh carlos balduras, uh, he’s 11 and 1 with 10 kos, and this is an 8 rounder for the lightweight prospect.
With the lightweight prospect, charlie celie uh, who is 1-0 with one ko in a four-rounder against the six-nine heavyweight el gigante man, antonio morales, this 6-9 guy man, so this card is gearing up to be.
You know: lots of excitement.
Tonight, man, it’s gon na, be great uh, shout out to last spell boxing hello to you too hello from the uk uh, so yeah that fights tonight uh.
Then, tomorrow we move into uh some some some other great fights man.
We got the chuck lidl versus martinez.
So this is going to be a good one.
Man, martinez 1801, 14 kos is moving up to 115 and does so against a legend of that weight in uh chocolato who’s, 50, 50 and three with 41 kos and with the mexicans stepping in to replace uh juan francisco estrada, who has been forced out of this Trilogy clash with chocolito uh due to coven, so hopefully this uh stands up to be.
You know, uh as big of a hype as it was gon na be before he had to pull out with covid, but also on this card.
Man be on the lookout for mark castro, another up-and-comer who’s, uh 5-0 right now, looking to improve his record of 6-0, also on the card in the lightweight division, fernando angel molina, uh who’s 6-0, looking to keep his uh undefeated record [ Music ].
So we do have, we do have the wbo naval light title up for grabs on this card angel fiero versus juan carlos burgos uh, and that’s going to go on tonight.
This is a step up for angel fiero um.
You know big fight, man he’s 19 and 1-1 uh and burglars is 34-6 and two.
So it’s going to be a good test for angel tonight, uh in in the co-main event man.
So it’s going to be great man.
I can’t wait to see this, but then also tomorrow, laura versus sanchez, uh, mercerial, laura returns to action against emilio sanchez.
You know laura 23, 2 and 1 16 kos makes a welcome return to the ring following his nasty cut in his rematch with josh warrington uh.
The mexican traveled to yorkshire in september to take on the leeds man at uh, headingley stadium, in a rematch having stunned the boxing world by stopping former world ruler in the ninth round of their clash in february in london, the rematch was heated up before an accidental Uh head clash in the second round that left laura with that nasty gash over his left eye uh and the contest was waved off, but with this laura honestly, i can’t wait to see this fight man.
I’M super excited for this one for sure.
Uh, don’t know about you guys, but i’ve been watching what network uh that one that one should be seen on.
I believe that’s the zone, it’s a zone! You can check that one man, that’s 9 p.
m: eastern standard time that one gets underway.
Uh the martinez card.
Uh, that’s also on his own and that’s also uh at 9 pm eastern standard time.
So that’s both of those are tomorrow.
Okay, i got ta get keep up with the joneses.
I never say to keep up with you already keeping up with the joneses eventually i’ll get there somehow not like you, but i’ll know what where the fight should be and all that and tune in.
But i i took some stuff.
That’S helped me with my knee.
So i might be a little sluggish um i woke up.
I was i was i was.
I was telling mike that uh um i was just sitting here then.
All of a sudden i felt a a strip of heat going across my knee right.
My knee right here and um, i said that’s unusual, it was hot, then it kept getting hotter and then it simmered down.
Then my leg, i couldn’t walk, but i was drinking this beer.
I forgot the name of it.
It’S like a it’s like a um, a dark beer and it comes in the bottle like that.
It comes in a bottle like like kind of like guinness, but it tasted like really good.
I had to put ice on it.
I did it like five days in a row and then that’s when it happened.
So the only thing i could think is the gown.
It’S not.
It’S got to be the guilt man, it’s got, ta be the goat man.
It was hurting whoo.
You got ta, stick to your whiskey tim, i don’t.
I don’t drink whiskey, uh, i drink wine.
I used to drink whiskey, but i started drinking at 20.
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I wasn’t a young drinker, that’s because you were training all the time right.
No, no.
My grandma gave me just to sit one time and i spit it out.
Um then.
The next time i got drunk was probably like 20 or something like that.
Um then, then, when i started boxing and and doing good at boxing, i started really seeing what the drinking is about.
You know, but my mom never drank the smoke.
My mom never drank the smoke she’s uh 86.
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She never yeah yeah, so she’s, not with our crowd.
She she’s weird.
She doesn’t get.
She don’t drink or nothing so she’s, weird those people that drink is that don’t drink they wear they straight yeah.
They straight we crooked.
I think they weird because they don’t know how to how to get a buzz.
They don’t know what a buzz is unless it’s a natural high.
Well, we had uh.
We had.
We had a wonderful uh chap uh out of philadelphia, um right, great great great fighter.
Undefeated and uh he was telling us about how he uh lives and breathes boxing night and day 24.
7.
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That’S his life, yeah he’s out of philadelphia and uh, formerly out of boston, but he he was a great interview.
Subject.
We had a couple of really good interviews this week.
Didn’T we uh irish guy, australian guy uh, oh yeah man, patty donovan um, oh during the during the week on my show tim uh.
Oh that’s right! You got the show it’s interesting, interesting to talk to these guys and talk about their training regimens their diets.
They go through uh, the you know the the rules of the game that aren’t in the game that no one sees really uh all these things that these guys have to go through in order to maintain the shape and and uh.
You know, because a lot of it’s not about uh, gaining and or losing it’s maintaining, and that’s that that’s that’s what i found when i was listening to these fellows this week, uh uh anyway, anyway, sorry about so i would interrupt you inside sidebar on that one.
It’S all good and for people who don’t know um muslim kaisen is actually the younger brother of undisputed heavyweight champion haseen rockman, oh okay, yeah, who knocked out leonis lewis back in 2001.
, a great canadian boxer, yeah, yeah, okay, canadian.
He knocked out who lennox lewis yeah.
Oh, i thought he was.
He was born in um england, right yeah.
Yes, yes, and then he went there.
It was it was.
It was great that you know what that was, that was fighting over him.
He got fighting over him that was graham’s little poke.
That was graham’s little poke to carl who’s.
Watching shout out to carl shout out to carl our friend from last well boxing over in the uk, uh yeah, they got a great show.
Man goes live on thursdays.
You guys should check that out.
Man, good friend of ours, here at the channel, shout out to you carl and andy um, yeah, honestly tim.
I i want to i’m going to put you in touch with this kid man who’s in uh.
You know he’s he’s now in philly man, honestly uh.
You know he’s 10-0 right now with seven knockouts wow, that’s good man uh! You know he.
He didn’t really have a bar, an amateur career man.
He didn’t start boxing until he was 21.
.
You know he’s 28.
He didn’t know how many amazing fights did he have.
He talked about one, he talked about one.
So, okay, you know, uh he’s been learning on the go man uh.
You know he sparred people like bonnie jack, caleb, plant uh.
You know he helped ksi get ready for you know his fight against uh logan paul.
So you know he’s he’s been around he.
He knows how to work.
Man he’s dedicated to the sport and, honestly with him moving to philly.
I said you know what it’d be a great idea.
Uh, maybe put you guys in touch, you know and and maybe there’s something.
Maybe something can happen there.
You know.
Definitely because i know tim tim, you definitely, you know you’re the school of defense.
You know what i mean and uh.
You know you, you preach.
How, today, a lot of boxers are going to learn this defense, defense, defense, and you know what what what you know if this guy’s learning right now um as he’s going, what what? Why not learn from one of the best in the game? Man, you thank you.
Thank you.
When we were listening to him, you know he was talking about and nick was saying what a great right he has so he’s got a great offensive arsenal right he’s got a great offensive arsenal, but not once he ever mentions defense.
I thought that was interesting, so he’s a he’s, a real come forward, boxer um.
He he doesn’t waste shots.
He likes to make sure that if he’s going to throw a punch, it’s going to count.
So you know he’s very methodical with his with his arsenal and how he uses it.
Man, you know, he’s a very he’s: a very intelligent fighter, um and honestly tim i’ll, send you over some of the videos you can watch yeah.
Definitely i’ll send some over to you tonight and uh yeah.
We do have his information, i’m gon na hand it off to you after the show today, and you can contact him so musin.
If you’re watching man, the muslim boxer, i told you, i was gon na put you in touch with the man.
Tim witherspoon he’ll be calling you some point: you’ll get your number man.
So, honestly, you figured you figured 10 and no uh is 10-0 right, 10 and over seven knockouts.
Well, he he he should have a team.
He should have his management and promotion.
He should have them all behind them.
Yeah.
But you know what you know.
You know you know what’s great having you behind them, hey, hey! Thank you.
Thank you.
Definitely, definitely and tim.
I know you’re one of those guys, man that you know you’re you’re, very humble, and you know you, don’t you don’t like them? Well, you don’t like to boast about [ __ ], you just you’re you’re a real person, and you know what you the skills and knowledge that you could.
You know teach any of these young cats in boxing i can help, but now i can help them out exactly, and you know what i’d like i’d like to see this guy get the help that he deserves and honestly man, the guys the guy is a very Humble person off the screen, you know, he’s very religious.
You know he believes in his faith and uh.
You know when he gets into the ring.
Then it’s like turning on a switch and he goes.
You know it’s work time.
So you know he’s dedicated to the art uh.
You know he he did fall into it late in his life, but uh, you know, he’s he’s come along man he’s a natural he’s, a natural for boxers, that’s falling late.
They do need somebody, that’s been there and done that or somebody there’s people, this box should have been there and done that and still and still don’t really, they can’t contribute, but um, you know he’s standing, no um who who does he have with him? I’M surprised somebody like that tenant know.
His brother was champ knocked out linux, lewis and, and and he’s like, not by himself but he’s got to have a team he’s got a team, okay, cool, okay! I could show them little bits and pieces that could polish them off exactly.
This is what i was thinking.
This is what i was thinking right yeah.
You know why why not get some tips and tricks from the legendary hall of famer two-time heavyweight world champion tim witherspoon yeah, that’s it that’s it just look right over your shoulder there! No! I was looking at the tracks.
No, the branches, the planches over there.
I got three plants from you know why not learn from a legend man if a legend can help you out and give you a few pointers.
Definitely tim, i think you’re the one to to really.
You know be able to help him out and anything you can do to help him out.
Would you know he’d be greatly appreciated? Definitely, i’m i’m glad.
I could put you guys in touch man and appreciate it.
Hopefully you guys can work something out and uh.
You know work together in the future man.
It would be uh.
We had a young lady who started a show.
A new show with us this week on talk and fight uh a boxer.
Well, is she i don’t know if she’s a current boxer but a former boxer for sure and a really good champ uh natalie brown? I was wondering if you knew her natalie brown.
Is she from england um? Where was she born? Was she born in jamaica? She might be, and she might have been born in jamaica, but but she was, she was definitely fighting for uh the usa.
This ain’t, the girl, i’m talking about.
No, no, not natalie sugar, brown, uh started a new show.
She was born she’s born in storm, mountain georgia and then uh then moved to mississauga, ontario canada.
At one point, and now i believe, she’s down in the states correct.
Oh she said she was born in jamaica, but i was wrong.
Um [ Laughter ], but she she was telling some great stories uh about her career and about the rise of uh, women’s boxing’s and and the struggles that they’ve had to go through over the years and she relayed just right.
Mike i mean she gave an incredible story.
Um you know about about.
There was even a lawsuit involved, someone someone had to sue usa boxing in order to get women to be able to fight uh for the even before the olympics were uh premiered in 2012.
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So so she was telling us the struggles uh and she was saying she was saying back in her day.
They actually fought three minute rounds, so i’d like to go back and ask her: when did they switch at the two minute rounds? Because if they originally started with three minute rounds, i mean i was really surprised to hear that they switched to two anyway uh the unsure they’re sparring.
Her sparring was done against man like yeah.
You know so so it’s just like katie uh go ahead.
Good katie real quick i was in, i was in uh she’s fighting, oh god, um um.
She was infused in ireland together and um.
I think i told y’all about that.
Her dad she was boxing guys and they were clocking and she was fighting.
But that’s like i’m letting my daughter fight, no guys these guys were like nice and strong and and they was banging her.
I was like whoa, but she was hanging in there with them right there we was in uh.
We was in uh uh, dublin.
No! No! We was in um, what’s the main one in ireland, but dublin’s the capital of dublin and it’s uh yeah belfast.
So we was there man and she was she was banging, but she was getting hit with some good shots.
She’S fighting juice bar sperm with guys, though, and that’s what natalie was saying like back in the day when she was sparring these guys.
These guys certainly did not mind laying a beating on these girls.
I mean it’s almost like they enjoyed it.
Well, i mean you know, maybe that was their job.
I don’t know but uh.
At the end of the day there was no uh, you know no love lost between these guys were sparring, each other and gals guys and gals going at it uh so anyways.
I just thought i just i just wondered if, if you hadn’t known her back in the day uh but oh, how old, how old is she 44? I don’t! Oh no.
I know i was going to be polite and say no you we don’t know.
Honestly, honestly, it was just a guess, jack, jackie jackie.
What about the the uh, the female muhammad ali, jackie? She might have passed away, jackie tawanda, or something like that.
She came up ali’s camp um and she was promoting that she was the ali, jackie, tacolanda, she’s, from north jersey or somewhere.
I forgot her name, but she was labeling herself as uh as uh, jackie kind of wonder, yeah.
That’S her name older lady, dublin’s, a female aldi, uh yeah man.
She uh.
She grew up in new york, uh.
Okay, that’s her yeah! She was a pioneer and female boxing man um, you know.
Well.
She was a female heavyweight boxer from 1970 in 1980, uh she’s, well-known figure in the sport and was featured in many newspaper articles and magazines, yeah um.
You know she went to court against then boxing, commissioner edwin dooley, who refused to grant her a license because state law had discriminated against women from professional fighting, so she’s uh.
You know she paved the way for women in in in women’s boxing man, because we was up ali’s camp uh training with her.
I was training with her when i was like, i don’t know how many fights i have was training and and uh she.
She was, you could tell she was older.
She was older than everybody uh, but she to me you know she could fight but um, maybe because she was older, then maybe she’s younger.
She did a little.
You know did a lot more better than what she did.
She only had one she only had one professional female fight against uh diane clark in a six round fight in 1979.
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She had lost that fight, but still is considered one of the pioneers that paved the way for female boxers on the president yeah.
She she promoted.
She promoted it everywhere.
She went like in the james like yeah, i’m jackie, tolanda, whatever and um, but she was really cool.
She was cool yeah.
I had a chance to meet her.
She, you know what she made.
History too, though, uh a lot of people don’t know uh she made history by uh fighting in the martial arts tournament uh part of the aaron banks oriental world self-defense show.
I remember something like that: yeah at madison square garden and she fought kickboxer, larry, uh, rondina, uh and knocked him out early in the second round, with a left to the jaw.
Although the show is uh uh, you know a mix of demonstrations and contests uh that but to this day, are viewed uh with suspicion as to whether they were predetermined uh.
She was the first female fight to perform at a combat sport in madison square garden.
So wow, i remember talking about something like that: it’s i’m getting old! Now you know we all are.
I think it’s the medicine, though.
What do you mean man, i’m getting older, i’m getting older.
You got a baby facial baby face.
I know i i got the baby face, but your beard, your beard’s, getting longer you’re, not getting older.
What do you mean it’s getting greater? Look.
She knew jackie knew everybody from newark new jersey, um um people from new york, because when he was at the camp and they came there, everybody knew her.
Everybody knew and i came from philly like in every weekend, like people from north new jersey brooklyn.
They would come over to see ali and um.
She knew all the people from like, like like uh uh, north jersey and uh new york.
She knew everybody, you know and and um she seemed to like she was pretty cool, she’s, pretty cool she’s.
She was the first female boxer to become a member of the ring, eight uh, the veterans, boxing association uh.
She was inducted into their hall of fame as well as madison square gardens, hall of fame uh.
You know and sadly uh.
She passed away.
Uh of colon cancer at mountain – oh okay, yeah at harlem’s mount sinai hospital back in 2009, so well yeah.
But you know what you know: what uh? If it wasn’t for women like jackie, you know: tana wanda! You know female boxing wouldn’t be what it is today.
So def definitely the fact that she’s been inducted into the hall of fames.
You know shout out to her, you know it’s it’s it’s great man, it’s great and she should be recognized man and she should be celebrated.
As you know, one of the pioneers of the game – so that’s good man, that’s good yeah they’ve done it right.
Well, certainly it certainly paved the way for the amount of surrounding taylor fight.
That’S for sure.
Oh man, that’s going hey whoa um that katie listen! There’S one fight, i don’t think katie won um.
I don’t think she won.
I don’t can’t remember that fight, but but this that that serrano girl she could fight she could play a little bit yeah, but i seen katie with the fight.
This girl was clocking her and she still won.
I think it was in uh ireland, yeah um.
Is there a fight where they think that katie didn’t win that that that was that you know of um? I it was one fight.
She fought against.
If there was a spanish girl or she was, she was white and um, everybody thought she lost um, you mean as an amateur no.
This is pro recently within like a year and a half i saw it, i saw some of it and she was getting beat, beat a little bit and then when when then, when they gave it to her.
A lot of people was ups shut up, shania, [, Music, ], honestly um.
Every fight that she’s fought that she hasn’t finished has been a unanimous decision except for candy, except for 2019 uh.
When she took on delphine pursuing.
I was a majority decision that went the distance.
So, okay, that’s uh! That’S about the closest one.
I guess that she did dominate in right.
So everything else um.
You know faruza sharapova, that was unanimous decision.
Ten rounds, uh jennifer hahn, unanimous decision ten rounds, natasha jonas unanimous decision miriam gutierrez unanimous, you know delphine pursuing the second time she fought.
It was unanimous decision, so you know she’s, i’m looking forward to that fight.
When is that fight? That fight is coming up? I believe uh april.
The 30th is what it is.
I’M gon na definitely watch that one because i was with serrano.
We was down at the was at the um, the new jersey hall of fame.
We got our awards, she got her awards.
She was she tall.
I was with katie, i was with katie, so i’m gon na watch that fight i’m gon na be up on that fight yeah.
I want to see that fight, yep and she’s beautiful that girl’s, beautiful, uh, serrano, yeah, yeah, okay.
What’S she fighting for what is she fighting for? She should be a model she saw.
Hey, hey tim, i interviewed.
I interviewed a girl from uh germany last week, man that uh or not last week the week before she’s going to retire her no no she’s.
She just started her boxing career at the age of 36.
because it’s 17 because at 17 she was a runway model in i, paris walk down the thing with people watching and stuff yeah she went and now she won the fight.
Well, no first of all she did that, then she moved on and became a dj who traveled the world and played festivals.
After that she became a world two-time world champion.
Kickboxer uh then had a baby and uh got the itch again so decided to pick up boxing gloves at 36 and become a pro and now she’s undefeated.
I think she could do it.
Oh yeah, okay, yeah.
She could do that.
Yeah, okay, definitely man! Yes, i wanted i actually i wan na i wan na i wan na talk about.
I wan na talk about the dylan white and uh fury, let’s, let’s, let’s that’s correctly, pronounced as a name dillian, it ain’t it ain’t dylan! It’S not dylan! It’S dillian! Honestly.
85.
000 tickets purchased within three hours for this boat and they’ve applied they’ve applied they’ve applied for a hundred thousand.
They want to allow 100 000 to that stadium, yeah and, and there was there – was 170 000 people in the online queue to buy a ticket yeah.
So they have, they have they have 5 000 coach tickets are yet to be released.
Uh details for the seller still remaining on coach packages will be announced in the coming days.
Uh will be available via ticketmaster.
So oh man, this is crazy.
Man uh you don’t.
I was with dylan.
I was no go ahead.
You go ahead.
No! No! No! No i’m just it’s! It’S crazy, like you know, there’s there’s a lot of hype towards this one.
I can’t wait to see this one get underway, man.
I i just wonder if it’s gon na translate over to the united states or not you, you’ve got tyson fury and dillian white going at it.
It’S good! It’S going to be a great fight for the uk fans, but is that going to translate uh to the kinds of numbers that you’ll see in the us for big fights over there? That’S a big fight over there over there yeah over there over here people would be real interested in seeing uh tyson fury, uh fight fighting him.
I don’t know you might know more about over here than, but i know over there that’s gon na be the talk of the town.
I was with dylan white.
I was with dylan white when he was in camp sparring and everything and i was with tyson fury and they both need defense and a lot of fighters.
Today they need defense, they both went down.
They both went down, so you could tell like both of them went down.
Josh went down what they need.
They need a little bit more defense, that’s all keeping their hands up.
There’S a lot of fighters, they’re going down, they’re going down man and and um.
So everything else is good, your right hand or your jab or or this might be good, but you’re lacking a little defense.
Uh dante wilder went down a whole bunch of times.
Tyson fury went down, uh dylan white went down um, you know just a little bit more defense.
Somebody that’s familiar with defense, because um everybody think that dylan white might lose a lot of people think he might lose.
But i said all you need.
Is this much defense and that’ll make a difference? You know uh honestly, dillian white has been very silent during all of this uh.
You know with with tyson fury tyson fury being tyson fury and you know being being that outspoken person that he is honestly tyson.
Fury’S made a lot of hype for this.
I i’m thinking i i don’t.
I don’t know man, i think, fear i think fury’s gon na school him man.
I honestly do, i think, fury’s gon na, i think he’s gon na, take it to white and i think uh.
You know it’s.
It’S gon na it’s gon na end in a knockout and i think tyson fury’s gon na be you know, standing the victor man.
To be honest, that’s my opinion and do you think he’ll stick to his word and then quit boxing, and i mean that politely.
I mean: is he gon na? Is he gon na retire? Is he gon na buy that yacht uh and he’s going to allow the heavyweight division to be unclogged and keep in mind if you sick stays in ukraine? I hope he doesn’t, but let’s say he gets killed or injured he’ll be out of it.
So you’re going to see a i hate to say it, but if fury does quit and music does get in trouble in ukraine, you’re going to see a very fast unclogging of the heavyweight division.
Oh man, definitely i think that uh um dylan white has a better chance if, if he just had somebody now, i talked to somebody yesterday that said that uh he has these guys training them right, and i know him, but all they got to do is tighten His defense up and he’ll do a lot better.
That’S all you know.
I say because i know defense yeah, exactly he’s a big boy and all it takes is one punch, as we all know, and that changes the game.
So i’m not colin white, but there is that small percentage uh you know of people who are going to bet on on white to get that one punch through and uh.
As you can see, you know, wild approved it.
You know fury, jury is susceptible, he is susceptible yeah, but i’m just saying this is a better chance and that that’s that the period of time on all those rounds, all the 12 rounds and if you could hit them one time in them, 12 rounds because tyson Arms be loose and when they exchange he could get caught um, but tyson fury has just something about him that you can’t stop him.
You know he’s in his mind, he’s tyson fury that he’s the man he got off the canvas.
How many times he got off that canvas? That’S what that’s! What i’m thinking about? He’Ll get up and win the fight, but dylan white could punch and he got plenty of heart.
But if you get hit by tyson, if you get hit he’s going down, but i think that’s going to be a good fight, let’s see you got all these guys.
Honestly, honestly, he did say he is going to retire after this fight with white, but but he but he said, but he said he will still.
He still plans on fighting ufc champion francis nagano in 2023 yeah man, you haven’t heard this.
No, oh yeah, so he’s going to make an exception to fight ufc champion francis naganu after vowing to retire with a win over dylan white, a kickboxing fight or no no he’s so he has confirmed it will not disrupt uh his goal of fighting again next year.
This hit the retirement and he called for it to be an unprecedented boxing match inside a cage.
It’S gon na be a boxing match inside a cage with four ounce gloves on.
Why? Why not [ Laughter, ], [ Applause ]? Why not? Why not tyson should knock him out? I’Ve never even seen a guy honestly and truthfully man we’re finally going to get to see a boxing match with uh four ounce gloves like i’ve, been talking about it’s very dangerous.
It’S very dangerous yeah! You know francis francis negan who’s, not a no small guy either man he’s he’s.
He hits very hard.
Oh this, oh, he don’t have a chance.
They talk about the way i do.
I do believe that dylan has a chance.
I was with him.
He has plenty of heart um, it’s just like.
I said you got plenty of heart, but once you get on you get hit on there and go down, you still have that heart going down on the canvas is the fact that you should have kept your hands up with that heart.
So so i’m saying you know, he’s fighting him but um.
You know.
If you get hit on that chin, you got to protect that chin, but i think he’d do pretty good um.
Don’T i wouldn’t bet on it.
I wouldn’t bet on it.
I’D definitely like to see it yeah.
I wouldn’t bet on it because uh dylan could take him down and he could.
He could definitely put dylan on the canvas, but um dylan could definitely put him on the canvas you know so um have they announced the undercard on that yet uh? No, i don’t.
I don’t believe so, hey you should be knowing that mike.
What’S the matter with you sleeping on the job you know sleeping on the job.
I was listening to you guys listening to on youtube on my way here.
I’M here i was listening to everything.
Um, nothing has been added, yet nothing has been added to the fury.
Uh white card yet well, let me say: i’m gon na call out my uh.
My uh upset victory for dylan white right now.
You know what you’re saying you’re saying: upset yeah yeah and i agree tim.
You know what i was thinking we got, we got ta start our own show about specifically about defense, because you you emphasize defense, just as much as i do.
When it comes to fighters, we got ta figure, something out to put a talk and fight defense.
Boxing defense show together or something like that.
Yeah.
It started with me when i heard a lot of people start.
You know when i was young and you take over as soon as i finished, when a lot of people was going around.
A lot of trainers are saying: hit, um, speed, speed and and offense.
If you throw so many punches, they won’t be able to hit you with the defense.
That is bad teaching.
Yeah options are, and you need, and you need both of them.
Some a lot of a lot of boxers made it without defense, one or the other, but really you’ll, be comfortable.
Your mind be settled everything if you knew a little bit of both of them.
What’S the art, the art is boxing defense and offense, not just not just throwing punches you’re gon na get hit exactly exactly.
You know what it’s it’s all about, how much talking you want to do later on in life? I guess right.
Do you want to be able to put a sentence together? Yeah, oh okay, yeah! You better have some defense man.
If you want to be able to uh, you know put sentences together when you’re older, the less you get the less you get that defense right there.
That that that defense, right there tim is lost nowadays, everyone has the traditional and time out.
I see i see carl and nine drinking today, [ Laughter ], if you’re right-handed, you just take the right arm, let it cross here and take this and lay it across the stomach and when the body shots come hold up.
Let me tilt a little bit guys.
Let me tilt it when the body shots come, you know, forget about body shots when the body shots.
Come you just tilt this way and tilt this way the shot’s going to hit there and the shot’s gon na hit here right.
You put this elbow on there.
Yeah and and this elbow and this hand, and that shoulder are best friends, so they come together, see that yeah right yeah.
Then you get the hook.
Then they come together.
Then you then, when they throw a lot of punches.
You can bring it up like this.
You can bring it up like that and joe frazier did more like this yeah see bring it on like that turn, throw a hook turn this way through right hand, so um, i’m very.
I know how to do that and i would love to teach it yeah.
We’Re definitely gon na we’re.
Definitely gon na make that happen online or something then there’s the basic one right.
So the basic one, real quick guys do the elbows you got ta keep the dig the elbows in yeah and i’m gon na tell you about what happened.
Franklin and put put these on your temple and dig this in and that’s a tight shell yeah.
You feel something you count off.
It mm-hmm count off it.
So i was talking to franklin real, quick franklin.
The guy did franklin and he he texted me this morning.
I might be trained, you know franklin from england right did i tell you about him? No, i didn’t they want me to change this guy flank franklin uh and he was gon na fly him in, but he said some guy was telling them that his hands are too high and he told him to put his hands low like this, and i told Him i said you got to put your hands around your temple here, like that.
That’S when i text him – and i told him what my trainer said tim if i’m in, if i’m not in the gym and this people want to show you stuff just need to go in one ear and out the other.
Don’T don’t say no.
My training out here just be nice and just let it go into one, that’s another.
That’S that’s! What i’m gon na tell franklin um if it’s good listen but but if you don’t think it is just listen to it and then later on we to meet up um yeah, you know so yeah yeah defense, man, defense, will let your make your career last longer.
There’S a lot of guys.
You know that uh uh, i think in boxing you know if you retire, if you see guys retire in their early 30s, it’s mainly because they had a lot of wars in their in their careers.
Yeah yeah.
That’S just true the guys.
The only way, the only guys that really lasted like past 35 are the ones are actual good boxers that you know have an educated, jab and good defense and don’t get hit as much.
That’S that’s really.
The only way you last longer in the sport right how good was beneath this man and he was brain dead, but well you know what he had a natural thing like mayweather, like move around yeah yeah like mayweather, and he got caught sometimes.
But but you know you got ta, you want to be able to teach too when you retire exactly exactly so.
That’S why i want to learn both because i want to be a good trainer afterwards, i can show them defense and offense.
You know exactly tim tim yeah show everybody your belt man, the people in the right hand here here pick it up pick it up: [ Music, ], that’s the official [ __ ] right there, man, that’s the official [ __ ] right there.
You want me to tell you want me to tell you uh about this belt.
Yeah dude tell everybody about the belt tim tell them about it.
Okay, now this belt was given to me by somebody in england, but it is a.
This is a wbc belt, but when i was fighting when i was leading the fight against don king and all the people that was cheating the boxers bad, they wouldn’t give me the the duplicates.
Okay, you win the fight, they give you the original belt yeah.
Okay, then, a couple of weeks later, a month they send you, they send you a belt like like that, so you got to give it back.
They never sent me mines because i was arguing about all the all the different things about don king jose solomon uh.
You know, and they they’re my friends so this i never got one a duplicate.
I never got one.
So that’s the real wbc yeah.
This is exclusive exclusivity right there.
People, oh people in england, got it for me, though.
That’S right, that’s right.
Only from tim witherspoon only on talk and fight, that’s right! Man! That’S right! Right! Here! You see all the the flags on there.
Yes, that is amazing man.
I hope all our our our people watching right now realize what you’re witnessing right now that is uh exclusive.
All the belts that you see these guys have on tv.
Those are the duplicates.
The real thing, real thing: we’re having a question uh.
Does the belt come with wbc bracelets, all right, what you mean, brace bracelets, what [ Laughter, ]? Well, i’ve seen i’ve seen like.
I think tia forma lopez has one i think i’ve seen garcia with one like these guys are wearing these little tiny.
They almost look like watches but they’re, just mini versions of this belt.
Oh those things they like for autographing and everything.
Okay, yeah they’re like for autographing, and i think the autograph is uh community.
They buy them, they got, they make them and they or they.
You know they sell it.
Okay, the little ones, those little ones right.
Yeah.
Thank you to our to our viewer.
Actually, the bracelets do go with the belt okay, so nowadays they do give bracelets with them.
You know well, this is what uh our viewers saying so um, okay, so maybe nowadays yeah.
I didn’t know that okay yeah, because uh honestly back then tim, you you, you know you’re a while back like you’re you’re right you’re, a veteran, maybe oh, apparently apparently they’re saying tim.
They tricked you brother.
They were supposed to give you the bracelets with the belt.
No yo tim, you better be making some phone calls, they wasn’t giving out.
No bracelets, then back then they weren’t, giving up braces just gave you the belt, or maybe they had somebody.
That’S something up the date there’s something now they doing.
I never got no bracelet.
Huh, maybe that was perfect.
You walk around with the braces blondes lemons, my hair, that’s the thing they put around here right, the bridge yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
I never had one of them.
I know i’ve seen them, though, and you can sign them.
It’S good for autographs, you sign them, you can sign up and everything yeah i’ve never seen.
I’Ve seen them little small things, yeah yeah, seeing them! Now you can buy you.
You can buy one on ebay for 35 bucks plus shipping anybody they make.
They make replica ones they make like replica little bracelet ones.
What okay? That’S! Even? Why would you want one and anybody can get it, it doesn’t make it exclusive.
Not everyone could get a belt, but it’s not really the real one.
Honestly, i wouldn’t even buy one because i didn’t earn a wbc millionaire.
I wouldn’t even buy a bracelet, so i don’t even know why they sell them.
To be honest: well, the people like people like them.
You know they would like to have it too.
You know and then a lot of the guys that does the the you know you’re taking the pictures yeah they did, they want to give you they give you the belt to take it.
What you know something like that um i went to the memorabilia things before, like all that when they’re doing them – and they have all those belts and stuff there and they they anything with a picture on.
You know this belt a little belt.
They even have like bracelets and stuff.
I think you put on um yeah, okay, wbc yeah, and i told you about the time uh your guys got to start talking.
You know, but i told you about the time i i seen i seen the sun.
I seen the sun and it was a great opportunity to try to talk to him about some stuff, but i didn’t i was in vegas at the tyson fury fight i was doing and the scene in there.
I gave him a hug then later the next day.
I said, oh, i should have talked to him trying to get some get his phone number.
So we can.
You know i told y’all that before i think, yeah yeah you remember that was that was that the last big fight that you’re at the tyson fury fight yeah, that one demo yeah tyson fury and uh dante wilder yeah.
How does it work you can? Can you just go to any fight and just say i’m tim witherspoon and go in hell yeah? The majority of places go to, let me in, but this particular fight yeah.
They would have.
Let me in i know the promoters i would have got in.
I could take a girl with me and go in and take shania with me.
If i go to any fight and they they say tim tim with this one, then let me in yeah i can get in.
Can i can i be your son to get in with you, you probably get getting near your or so we we try to get him through press passes, but sometimes it works.
Sometimes it doesn’t.
Oh okay, yeah, maybe if tim puts in the press, puts in for the press pass and says he has a group of like three or four people.
I don’t know here we go.
Let me know, don’t let me they’ll let three people in with me everywhere yeah.
I can get like three people in yeah, wow tim.
We have another question.
Okay, do you know eddie hearn and your thoughts on eddie hearn yeah.
I met eddie as dad and eddie.
I met eddie, i think maybe once but i met his dad.
We, like i told y’all before we were doing a show on ireland.
A reality show called lord of the rings and um and his dad was the promoter of the show um and you had tyson fury was in it.
Katie taylor was in it.
We all.
We did the show they said it went off pretty good, um um but um.
I just talked to his father, but i don’t think i talked to eddie junior, but his father was really cool.
His father was really nice buried, her barry hearn.
Wasn’T he his dad’s name, barry yeah, yeah yeah his dad? We got um another another question in the chat here.
Sorry, my bad, were you finished answering that my bad? I think i cut you off.
Someone wants to know someone want to know uh your your who’s.
Gon na win between earl spence and terence crawford – oh that’s gon na that’s gon na be a good fight.
I think that mike might know more about it than me because he’s up on the scene and maybe graham but um – i i you know i always criticize, because i just don’t see not big highly criticized little ones and some.
I always do that and i’m saying, but neither neither one of them defense, like the basic defense.
Is there right when you’re engaging you’re gon na have to remember to bring your hands back for defense, and i don’t see that much in a lot of these boxers.
I don’t see it enough in there, so that’s why i keep emphasizing on one word: if you, if you watch somebody like specifically spence and crawford they they do, they do have good defense um.
They do have good defense and good counter punching.
So if you get a chance to watch them, that’s the reason why this is like a 50 50 fight that i that i believe, because they keep their hand in the pot, they keep their hand tight hands and even and even when they do sometimes you know.
I call i know it’s the philly shell, but i call it the floyd defenses because he’s the best at doing it right now, but no, no, i know you’re from philly.
I apologize.
I apologize.
No, that’s not it, that’s not it.
What is it? I know the defense, he don’t he’s all natural he’s all natural.
You know he can’t teach that he’s automatically comes out he’s like a radar, but but he can’t teach to a certain extent.
Okay, there’s some stuff.
Look look at this look at this.
He goes on this side right.
He goes on this side right.
That defense consists of both sides like he goes like this right.
What about that side? You know you notice, you just go to this side and keep doing it.
You never see him go on that side, yeah yeah! He can’t teach that he only go.
You don’t need to teach this and that’s incomplete, but he does real good.
That’S not complete because you go this slide and you go on that side.
Go on this side on that side and every time there’s his opponent come at him.
He just stay like this and keep going like this like james tony yeah, and then he can like throw the right hand, but there’s more to it.
They come like this and throw the right hand and he don’t even keep his hands up.
Sometimes he just go like this and the hand plus be here when you go back like this catching the punch here and then you see the hook comes.
Let’S go this way so here he mayweather just goes this way all the time, and you see him, he never stop and go on this side and throw a hook up the other way, yeah yeah.
So i i noticed that before and i was telling people he needed to get on the other side too, but he already made his money he already successful, but if anybody else tried they need to.
You got to work on both sides.
Not just keep them like this and tony go like this.
Somebody who was teaching them didn’t teach them to go on this side, too, see you’re on this side and you’re on this side of the of the straight hand.
You’Re on this side, and on that side you got ta go on both sides: okay, yeah yeah, and you need to be comfortable, slipping both ways.
You’Re saying because like floyd only goes one way, but you got ta be comfortable, slipping both ways right well, how’s.
He gon na teach somebody that’s the thing, i’m saying how he’s gon na teach somebody when he keep just going that way and he gets that right hand back on you and bam and keep on his boom, but he could have got them guys out.
Even a little bit more easier, if you just boom, then this side boom going that side and his back was against the ropes when he does that, like back to be against the rope right, you’re going to keep going like this, somebody didn’t teach them to go On that side, i can’t probably over there because i’m on the couch when it comes to the earl spence and you know terence crawford – you know spence the only thing he’s thinking about right now.
Is you guys to be honest man uh? You know he’s been non-committal when asked about boxing terence crawford later this year during press conferences, uh, which is you know what it is man and rightfully so you can’t look past your opponent exactly right.
The past couple of weeks we’ve seen some uh we’ve seen some upsets uh, you know uh lopez losing is this thing.
Um uh daniel jacobs lost to uh to that guy too.
So you know we’ve seen just in recent times how looking past your opponent can uh can cost you a win jacobs lost to who he lost to uh writer, john ryder.
What’S his like john writer, a uk fighter that wasn’t very known a good boxer, good southpaw um, i didn’t really hear too much about him, though.
So that’s why i was just predicting jacobs to win by unanimous and he lost by split decision right and um tia fibo lopez was wasn’t even thinking about george camposes.
He was already talking about uh.
You know the other fights he’s gon na, have and moving up and weight classes, and and and doing this and doing that he was he was like he.
He was clearly looking past george cambos, like he was already putting that victory in his head and looking past it and then yeah yeah yeah.
That’S a mistake, that’s a mistake! Yeah you got ta who’s ever in front of you.
That’S you got ta, take them out.
First, that’s what those trainers need to be and the managers need to be talking to their boxers say: look man! We we we’re talking about him.
Let’S get this guy in front of us out the way.
First, you know, but this is that money.
It’S that big fight, it’s all that hoopla.
He rather get that fight.
First right, yeah yeah! You got to concentrate on them right.
You got to concentrate right on.
What’S ever in front of you tim tim, we have another question from one of the viewers they want to know who your all-time favorite fighter is ali ali ali ali bhumanye? No reason why the reason why, but i felt bad when floyd talk said negative stuff about ali man.
I love floyd too, but how can you say that man he’s the greatest inside and outside listen ali ali wasn’t for strip clubs? Ollie wasn’t for all that.
Other stuff, which was floyd, is okay.
You can do that ollie was.
I got five daughters, i’m not getting no strip club, i’m just saying.
No, no, no listen! He got the.
He has the right to spend his money whatever way he want, but you cannot uh.
He said on, he said on the on on ollie: didn’t do this ali didn’t do that? Uh? I i wouldn’t have did that because ali is the greatest because he did stuff inside and outside the ring, and i don’t think there’s nobody’s gon na um match that you know you got to treat the kids.
You got to love people you’re, going to be on tv, cussing mother like this, and that and he floyd has every right till he get angry because you know i met him one time in vegas he was pretty cool.
He has the right to do what he wanted to do, but but i would say that ali is the man.
I knew.
There’S no doubt he’s the man floyd made all that money, i’m sure ali would have made it double if he was doing this time.
You know and and and um i wouldn’t i wouldn’t do that, but he did it.
He i wouldn’t speak against the greatest of all times.
I wouldn’t have did that unless there’s somebody truly is greater than him.
You got to be good inside the ring and outside yeah yeah yeah inside and outside that.
Definitely ellie was a great humanitarian who did a lot for the sport of boxing man a lot for a lot, for you know africa, but floyd was saying what did ali do? Floyd was saying: what did ali do? I did this.
He didn’t do this.
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