Friday Night Boxing Panel 47 | Weekly Episode | Talkin Fight
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What an exciting week, it’s been boxing fans! Thank you for joining us once again on talk and fight for the friday night panel featuring uh, my core, not myself.
Graham i’ve been uh talking with christian from boxing 247 this week, primarily about the outcome of the big heavyweight clash between tyson, fury and deonte wilder last weekend and believe me, it’s still a hot topic.
I mean other than the injuries sustained by deonte.
While this is just broken, finger, broken knuckle, broken hand potentially broken ear.
I actually think he was concussed during that fight and said on several different uh posts.
Hey man, he should just retire, he’s done it all.
After all, he started his boxing career to pay for his daughter’s medical bills.
I think he’s rich enough now he can pay for his dog’s medic.
Well, actually, all of her medical problems unbelievably have been completely cleared up.
She cannot only walk.
She can do cartwheels, apparently.
So, oh really yeah, so his daughter, who was uh born with his spina bifida uh, is, i think, she’s 16 years old.
Now, anyway, the point is is uh in the various comments i made across the internet was basically you know.
What’S he got left to prove he should retire [, Laughter, ] and when somebody just has to turn on his mic, you know honestly, truthfully, there’s just uh.
Oh tim, tim witherspoon joins us, nice there’s uh yeah, you know what what does he do now? There’S there’s lots of guys he can fight if he wants to fight him, but i don’t know what he’d be fighting him for exactly all right at this point he already knows that he can’t beat the man so can’t hear you sorry tim plug in your microphone.
Two turntables and the mic one fan mc on the set.
You can hear me now.
Yes, you know: okay, i’m trying to make the picture.
Okay, that’s! Okay! Right now, just just turn it down a little bit, so i shania turn it down.
Yeah get more of your face in there tilt the screen there you go well.
Is that cool yeah? It’S very! If you, if you’re leaning in like this there, you go there you go there, you go you’re.
All right, wait a minute.
Let me i’m getting old.
So i got to turn the sound up your camera person’s doing a great job.
There, hey, okay, okay, we we’re doing great.
We were debating whether you’d even join us, because you we thought you might be still in las vegas nah.
It was cool.
It was okay, great experience.
I know your guys um getting practice by doing this all the time so i had to.
I had the uh the mic, everything on the earphones and and um.
You know a lot of those guys.
Don’T talk straight skills and boxing.
They just talk to every stuff with about the boxing um.
If you understand what i mean right, they don’t directly say he threw a right hand or not that, but it’s just different from regular boxers speaking so and then english.
They were saying all these big words and then it came time for me to talk.
I was lost, i didn’t.
I had to figure out something you know so i was like they were saying these big words and then um.
All that look, i did commentary like.
We doing stuff we talking, i know what you’re talking about, but they was using all these big words.
They were non-boxers, they were non-boxers and stuff.
So i had really good lingo.
They don’t know the lingo they’re non-boxers see.
I understand us what, but they was using big words and then i guess i was like they said i did.
I did a good job you.
You can still see me right, yeah, okay and so uh.
Let me see there.
We go get some light in here.
Yeah so um talk sports, invited me over we on yet yeah we’re always we’re live.
We are okay, yeah.
We we um, you know, went over there, um they.
We we stayed in the parks and mjn um.
I don’t know where tyson fury and i’m staying all the mother got this.
They stayed somewhere else, but it was a good experience in the trailer park.
No, no, no, they were at the club.
Man, that’s not right.
You shouldn’t have said that.
That’S, oh, that’s! Not cool honestly, if i was a traveler and i had a huge mansion, i’d call my mansion the trailer park.
It was a really good.
It was a really good fight.
It was a really good fight.
One of one of the questions i was fans.
You said it was a really good fight.
I thought it was a good fight.
Okay, but but but the one question i have is we can get into details in a second, but i’m just curious because you were close, you were there, yeah was it.
Was it a wet canvas like? Was it slippery? No! No, because deonte deonte cam came out and said.
The reason he lost is because he slipped on wet canvas.
Maybe maybe he didn’t have the right um material on underneath his his boxing shoes.
Maybe maybe you know what i wasn’t in the ring i wasn’t in the ring, but but um i don’t think i don’t think the canvas uh was was slippery.
I don’t think so and if it was, we should have the right boxing surface underneath his shoes.
I i think it’s just poor excuses more and more.
I think so.
I think what happened here.
I don’t know we all we all shrunk.
We all shrunk, we’re having something show up here on the side, oh somebody’s, showing up.
Let’S get back so you didn’t think it was a good fight.
Okay, like i was like i was typing um like i was sending messages that it was a good rocky balboa, uh um.
It was a good that type of fight, but in terms of like skills, it was sloppy.
Dante wilder was doing this with his hands when he was like this, i was like.
I can’t believe malik.
Scott can’t couldn’t show him to do this right and block shots block.
You know, you know how i do it not like that, but he was walking like this.
I was in bed.
I was, i felt really.
Oh man what’s wrong with boxing now you know um.
It was to me, listen.
Okay, it was a.
It was a fight when people on television seeing sylvester stallone fighting um creed, it was a good fight.
It was a good fight in that terms, for the movies, a good fight when it comes down to like skills and beautiful stuff.
You didn’t see.
None of that.
I was disappointed, but the crowd was good.
The crowd loved it, people that supported tyson, fury, uh loved it and wanted to win.
They don’t care how he did it um and even dante wilder.
But me as a boxer.
I was like disappointed.
They looked at like amateurs, throwing punches all crazy yeah.
I mean it’s going to come out of my mouth different because type in my fights and watch them.
He didn’t see.
None of that.
No, you don’t see nothing like like dante.
Wilder was like this, like he couldn’t even hold change like this, and i couldn’t even believe nobody could teach him to keep it have his hands like this.
Neither one of them could block jabs real good, neither one of them dante while they was doing like this.
That’S embarrassing for a trainer yeah, that’s embarrassing, deontay was deante was blocking them with his face.
So it’s that new, that new training style, [, Laughter ], you know, and even tyson will block them a little bit better.
Tyson skills is a little bit better.
Is a little bit better than dante? Well, a lot better than dante.
Yeah dante needs need help he needs help.
Where does he go? Where does he go from here tim? What do you think he does from here? They told me that they told me that he’s untrainable that’s a lie.
Is you know you need the right trainer in there, somebody that you respect that he respect and um and um.
You know you got to teach him.
You got to teach him, didn’t he graduate high school and all that hey he’s got an olympic, but he’s got an olympic medal.
So obviously, at one point he was taught huh at one point.
He had to be taught something because you know he’s got an olympic medal yeah well.
Well, maybe we got ta, look at the fights, listen, you could get a medal and don’t you could get the heavyweight championship of the world and don’t really got good skills, and you know what like select two guys in the ring.
One can fight better than the other one.
Now, the one that can’t fight knock him out.
He just got that that he got that that other guy made a mistake, that you know a guy that don’t have more skills than his opponent still could win he’s still.
Gon na win, if the other guy make him, make a mistake and something like that, but but um i just i just was it.
You know i was ringside and i was like wow if i was in shape, if i was young i’ll, be rich hey, because i had a good defense, i wouldn’t let neither one of them hit me and get in there bam get them with that shot drop Them and dante while there i was really you got that right hand.
You know, you know me and malik had a little beef right, yeah didn’t what the media took the mic from me, what they took the mic from me.
This is what i did.
I was asking you seen it.
I was asking dante wilder um: does he have enough knowledge to get his own trainer? Do he need help from a manager or promoter? Because that’s what boxers? That’S? What, when i was coming up, the manager, the boxer, the the um, the the trainer and and the and the promoter they would all get together and decide on getting um a trainer for you, not the boxer.
He not he not malik’s, got out and and and he’s your trainer.
So i wanted to ask something and then i wanted to ask tyson fury about uh sugar hill, because sugar hill never afforded he never fought, because i was going to tell him about aaron snowwell who’s in my corner.
He never fought, but my trainer trained him.
Slim slim robinson, trained aaron snow well, and we was together, training and stuff like that, and he learned the tricks in the trade, but he never fought.
So i was going to tell them that that i was in the same situation.
Slim real quick, slim left because don king wasn’t paying him and i understood that i had to suck it up.
My head trainer had to leave me, but he said tim aaron could help you.
He i had taught him enough.
He said aaron get healthy, but i know more than my trainer, but he assisted me in some of my wins and everything and that and he know more than sugar hill and he and he know more than malik, he does so.
What do you think? What do you think, then, about uh boxers from the past, like yourself and heavyweights of the past in their prime? Do you think they would be good enough to go up against tyson fury these days? Oh um, some some of them yeah, some of them ty – is very big, he’s awkward, but um yeah, there’s a lot of heavyweights in monday, they’ll beat them and they’ll beat they’ll, be uh.
Um dante wilder, because dante wilders just depend on that right hand right.
His left hook is a little strong.
His left hook could hurt you, i think too yeah, but but um they’re easy to fight tyson fury’s, just a little bit more complicated too he’s a little bit more complicated because he moves and and and dante wilder just has a amateur uh mentality.
Thinking when he box um, a lot of his movements are really really awkward and he won he wanted to go.
He won the medal right bronze, he won the bronze or the bronze bomber, okay, yeah and and and um and um.
You know i went through a lot of stuff.
I didn’t really criticize nobody.
I just asked him: do you have enough knowledge to change the trainer? He changed.
Turn train mark.
He changed mark breelan.
He got rid of mark breeland right.
I was in camp with mark, grievin and and mark breeland.
He fight just like josh uh, just like wilder.
He got a right hand, a jab and a right hand, and he did body shots sometimes, but he had no defense.
I love mark.
I was in training camp with him like three or four times, and he has no defense he’s just like.
Oh wilder was doing this plotting punches and he didn’t do like this.
He didn’t do like this or like this.
He was like and getting hit like that.
That’S what the guys look like a different welder, though coming out in the first round.
He looked different coming out in the first round and it’s like almost he resorted back to his old ways.
The minute he took a couple nasty shots.
It’S like uh, it’s! It could put him back.
It’S like all that training just disappeared because they’re not they’re, not making them.
Do it long enough.
They probably stay on it a little bit then the next day.
Then they quit, then the next day they do a little bit see he was jabbing to the body.
I was waiting for that right hand.
That’S what i thought was gon na happen.
Man, that’s what i thought was gon na happen.
I thought he’s gon na come in nice and low and then come over with that right and he just never did.
But you know what that was a hard jab to the body side yeah.
He should have put that to the head too yeah and i don’t know he was scared to because of his defense yeah.
That’S why he kept doing that.
Go ahead, go ahead, yeah! No! No! You! You took it right out of my mouth man.
It must have been because of his defense.
He was jabbing hard to the body yeah and if you take that same jab and put it up there he’s gon na drop the right hand right behind it, yeah wow, it’s so easy.
They were so easy.
Those guys were moving um and then they got hit.
They got they both got dropped um.
They both got dropped.
Now i got dropped when i fought bone crusher, but i threw the fight and i tell you why i got dropped when i fought brian nelson in denmark, because because um they paid me x amount of money.
I wouldn’t do that in america and i had to act.
I had to put an acting thing on, i was broke, they came in, they came into my they knocked on the i said who the hell’s knocking on my door and i went out there.
It was um, no, no, it was somebody else that was setting it up.
So when i put brian nelson only had like 20 days of train and they already made, they already told me what to do and when we got there they took my passport.
They took my passport, my oldest brother.
He like six five.
He was like he was ready to get violent and stuff like that, so they gave us our passport back, so they was going to take.
They took our passports because they want to make sure i go down in four.
I don’t mind talking about this.
Somebody that was on facebook, saying don’t be, don’t be saying that you know what i’m not going to go the rest of my life, letting people know that that um that i got knocked out by somebody i could have knocked out in the first and second round And even with bone crusher, i was only going to get 500 000 to fight him.
If i’m going to fight tyson, that was in the contract with don king.
So remember tony tubbs, real quick, tony tubbs.
I smoked the weed got in trouble.
Um then i had to give him a rematch.
I i i won the title, but i had to give him a rematch.
They took 25 000 from me.
They sent me to the rehab.
Then i had to fight remat a rematch for tubbs.
He comes up with a hurt shoulder so then they stick bone crusher in, but when he had his hurt shoulder, i stopped training and i wasn’t doing the right thing for like four days almost a week.
Then they call me saying the fight’s still on then i found out that i was only getting 500 000.
If i beat bone crusher to fight tyson, i was only getting five.
I was only getting um 500 000 and out of that you know i was only going to get 50 because when i fought bruno and bruno got a million four, i went home with nine eight eight, fifty no about seventy five thousand wow.
So i know this is why now look at that fight when y’all guys when we over and then y’all come on and talk after, i finish just give me a couple more seconds.
Y’All look at that fight.
My corner knew my corner, knew that i was going down and my mom didn’t know she was crying yeah.
My mom didn’t know how to tell her.
She was crying after my my sisters and updates crying, i said mom.
I didn’t tell you, but i had to do this because i was only getting a 500 000 if i beat bone crusher and out of that i know i would have got about 75 000.
So i’m not going to tell no lie about it.
Hey, listen! It’S the truth, type in the first fight and type in the second fight.
Then you tell me the difference i had to go down.
I felt the best thing out of that fight.
He knocked his teeth.
Now he not one of these teeth out that i was going to go, get it taken out before the fight and they said no, the medicine might get you sluggish.
So he and know what watch the fight i spit right when i was in the corner and you see the teeth coming out, go ahead now, go ahead, your guys go ahead.
I’M telling you the truth sounds like a hockey fight.
Listen, i had to go down and when i went down – and i don’t want to talk about don king no more but when i went down and they gave the fight and he and they gave him the belt.
I felt relieved i felt united.
I felt i said man, i ain’t got to deal with don king.
No more, i swear so i ain’t got a lot i’ll tell the truth.
If he knocked me out, i’m gon na live, i’m gon na live up to it.
Yeah everybody in the corner know that i was going down and look at it.
You look at it later and you see i was acting and even with brian nelson i was acting like i was limping like.
I got hurt if you watched the fight afterwards.
I was limping like i got hurt, i wasn’t hurt so so i i’ll i that’s that’s that’s what i got to say just check it out.
I will i’ll definitely check that definitely check that out, but but in terms of like the fight, the fight in um in vegas, it was pretty good.
It was pretty good and um.
You know it was a good fight and and um.
I was happy for tyson.
Fury um, you know, malik scott was mad at me because i said a couple of things and um.
I just was telling the truth.
He got knocked out by touched up by his own, the guy he teaching.
What was they? What do they think people want to um? Think what you think, what you think he got knocked out by his is his trainer.
Well, this this was the entire question going into it.
We were watching the training, videos of deontay wilder and a lot of it was jab jab jab jab jab waiting for that right to come over okay.
So we we knew that that’s what he was training for his offense shall we say uh we in his training videos that we saw never never noticed the defense.
We only noticed the offensive moves that he was practicing.
So that’s what we were expecting in the fight and, as mike pointed out at the beginning of the fight that seemed to be what he was trying to do.
But uh the question came up: uh not posed by us, but just online in general, people were asking.
Would malik scott actually throw in the towel, or would he be scared to uh simply because um mark breland got fired for throwing in the towel so yeah? I got ta talk about that too, and i’ll make it brief.
No go ahead.
Okay, i’m gon na make it brief reeling through in the towel right.
But you know when i talk to my friend and i love him um like i, i haven’t talking to him in a while, but and there was this period where i hadn’t seen him in a while and he wasn’t coherent.
He wasn’t really like speaking directly uh speaking real good and i felt bad.
Maybe his judgment was messed up because he got hit a lot and he, when you see mark that when i seen him in training camp, he talks.
We were talking yeah tim blah, blah blah yeah tim and then years later, he dragging with his words he’s dragging with his words and i’m saying, oh no mark i hit a lot.
This is when i seen him like seven years later.
Oh, no, that could have been him throwing that towel and making the decision wrong.
That’S the first thing came in my mind or either somebody said it.
He couldn’t make the right decision because of damage.
I love him.
If you have you have you talking to him in in the last year or so? No, no! Well on interviews.
I think i don’t think you do that.
Many interviews because you could tell like tommy hearns, can never do an interview, because if he does you’ll feel bad tommy cannot talk.
I love him.
I was in california training with him, so i think mark greelyn probably made a bad decision, maybe because maybe because he’s damaged a little bit or i don’t know – maybe somebody was pressuring him.
I i think i think i think the opposite.
I think uh he made the right decision for this for the sake of deante wilder’s health.
I think i think deontay wilders have suffered concussions uh, courtesy of tyson fury and in this last fight i think it was clearly evident that the man’s brain has been hurt.
Yeah um, so, okay, i would i would.
I would suggest that mark breeland through the tut in the towel to protect okay, beyonce wilder to stop because he knew what could happen.
Okay, while they continued that one and in this last fight you could you could see any any professional medical doctor who’s watching this right now i guarantee you would agree with me.
Deontay wilder suffered a concussion, i guarantee it.
He was wobbling on his knees, uh it’s what they call an acute uh concussion as opposed to a chronic concussion yeah.
You know, and i wasn’t there – i wasn’t.
I wasn’t sure if he was answering questions that the referee was asking of him.
Okay, i wasn’t sure whether he had glazed eyes or not uh, but at the end of the day he makes a lot of sense.
He’D hit the ground, he was wobbling um, you know he he definitely had suffered brain damage and, quite frankly, if you, if you will recall, i was talking to mike about this before he popped on um, i think he got into the fighting uh simply because he Needed to pay the medical bills of his sick daughter, his first daughter who was born with spina bifida, so that costs millions that cause millions to take care of costs.
Lots when you live in the states, that’s for sure.
Well, it required six operations to fix her, and now she can walk and she’s fine.
But what i’m saying to deante wilder is hey man.
You’Ve got nothing more to prove boxing wise.
You knocked out every opponent, with the exception of tyson fury.
Let me talk about that.
All right, no finish, and i’m gon na tell you i’m gon na talk to you.
Well, all i’m saying casually is as as an observer, uh deontay wilder should should proudly retire.
Okay, maybe open up a gym and maybe become an analyst but take another job in boxing other than boxing uh, because i think his brain has suffered damage.
Well, i don’t think he could be.
I don’t think it would be a trainer he you know.
I don’t know, i’m definitely thinking don’t.
I don’t think it would be a trainer um, but you were saying something and i forgot and i was going to answer.
Oh man, i bought him knocking out everybody.
Oh yeah, right, okay, so everybody in this knockout uh group.
They wouldn’t even okay them for me and when i found out that mike tyson four boxes that he fought, they wouldn’t okay.
For me, i felt really good about that.
He fought him, but but they wouldn’t.
Let me fight him, so i felt good about that.
Everybody dante wilder for it, i’m saying that and none of them, none of them, probably wouldn’t have lasted in our era.
You don’t know their names, who was the toughest guy? Daddy fought, maybe lomachenko, but you got to give him.
You got to give him credit.
What about the other guys, i’m thinking klitschko, might have been the the toughest one yeah, that’s for sure, um well he’s fought uh, let’s see uh or uh lewis, ortiz uh, dominic, uh, brazil, uh, yeah, dominic, brazile who’s, the toughest uh.
Let’S see he’s fought chris areola he’s tough.
Chris is to me.
Chris is tough uh eric molina uh, jason gavin, uh malik scott uh matthew grieger.
Did you see that glove? You see the ball his right hand, he just hit the glove or something everybody was in the um down in the everybody at the fights, a lot of people were saying: um malik took a dive, so i went and looked at the uh, the tape, the video And it looked like he didn’t even hit malik [ Laughter ].
Did you see it? That’S what made me want to ask him even more.
I looked at her said and now you’re making him your trainer and real quick, and i think even tyson, fury and dion dante wilder don’t want to pay the 10 percent that the trainer is supposed to get um.
So that would have been.
That would have been big money out of the purse right, yeah and 4.
That would have been yeah, so it hurt them yeah that hurt.
I think you heard them.
Oh, that hurts man that hurts that’s a that’s a big, that’s a big price to pay and you’re, not only paying them man you’re going to pay your manager too got to get.
He got to get two thirds.
You know he’s your manager he’s got to get his money.
You know, yeah.
Your managers got to get their money.
Your trainers got to get their money.
I guess you’re paying your cut man too, because your cup man’s in there um yeah, you got ta pay.
The cut man you got: ta pay the cup man, you don’t pay the cut man, then you don’t come back out after that, uh that nasty gash over your eye.
There’S all these all these men, you got ta pay.
He got cut, no well, okay.
He! He was a little blind, the other fight, the other fight yeah.
In the other fight yeah, you got ta pay these guys, man, you don’t pay these guys and we we got you sick.
We got yusik and joshua lined up if yousek wins that, i’m pretty sure tyson fury will feel inclined to fight usyk.
But i also don’t think fury has much left to prove, except if he wants to remain in the game to provide a legacy statement.
But who, who is in the division? Now we’ve got dillian white, maybe joe parker? Maybe i was, i talked to joe at the fight he was at ringside there, there’s uh, there’s, there’s a guy right now, um i ivan daichiko from kazakhstan, who’s uh, the same height man, six, nine 245 pounds 30 years old he’s got 9-0 with nine ko’s right Now whoa, where are all the fights at over there? No they’re they’re, just uh they’re, all europe: okay, yeah europe.
Okay, that’s cool! We got so we we do have some.
We do have some big heavyweights uh coming coming into the uh into the equation: man, so whoa.
Okay, we have a new.
We have a new field of these guys that are coming up.
Man that we got to be on the lookout for a bunch of guys are six five: six sick uh.
What about uh, philip hargrovic? There’S another big heavyweight right from croatia, six six 230 pounds only 26 years old, 12 and old 10k.
I didn’t see i got to do more research they’re coming out here.
There’S a bunch there’s a bunch of big boys, but but the problem is uh.
It’S clogged up, yeah.
It’S all clogged up, man, everybody’s waiting, everybody’s waiting to fight everybody – and that’s all because we had to you know – have the whole boxing world on on hold there.
For you know a minute, while we waited for the joshua fury thing to uh run its course and then eventually set this date for the um uh, the wilder and fury fight that just happened so right now, that’s all been freed up.
We’Ve got, you know: uh aj who’s, not holding any belts right now we got you sick who’s got all the belts.
We got fury right now.
Who’S got the other belts.
So between those two guys now we have there’s all the belts and uh yeah man.
We got who knows, fury, says um, train um joshua, i put in, i said, been sending messages um.
I know exactly how to fight a southpaw and i’m gon na put it on tape.
I didn’t mean to cut you off yeah, i’m gon na put it on video.
If you don’t he’s, i heard he’s in um la um trying to i think, he’s trying to find a uh.
Somebody in england contacted me and said: josh was in la um uh.
What’S that name, i said: uh virgil, virgil, hunter, either him and then, when they said freddie roach, i just was like you know.
I was like freddie roach old school freddie roach.
I hate to talk real bad about freddie.
I i try to talk to him.
I i love these guys.
Pacquiao brought freddie roach’s name out.
I mean a lot of people in england, love him, but just watch his fights.
How can he, how can he he might have the skills to teach but not on defense? He got hit a lot and i felt bad for him.
He wouldn’t speak to me so me and barry mcguigan was in um.
He was in ireland, me, barry mcgregor, tyson, fury um and we and they was talking about trainers and they mentioned freddie roach and, i said uh i don’t know he’s all right buddy, he said no freddie roach is a real good trainer.
You know she was mad at me kind of like so i think he might have told freddie roach and i’ve seen freddie roach but like after that, he wouldn’t speak to me.
Like i said, hey freddie, he wouldn’t speak to me yeah if you type in freddie, roach’s, uh fights he’s getting hit all the time and you know, and so i think people i mean i feel bad talking like this he’s a hall of fame trainer uh.
All that he got awards uh, but pacquiao fights the same way all the time he was with mariah muhammad first um pacquiao.
He was with mariah muhammad just getting ready to give him some good trainers and then they they engineered something and got him away from around.
Muhammad and that’s how he wound it up with uh um, he rounded up with a bob aaron bob and but he was with he fought on my undercard excuse me and i was still fighting.
He fought and he looked real good.
I said where’d this dude come from right, but all his punches are straight straight punches like like martial arts.
I don’t see.
No, sometimes you see lupine, but if you watch his style he just throws straight punches and he’s good at it.
He’S good at it, but but freddie roach didn’t add nothing to him.
Maybe it’s inspiring and him and i hate talking about people, but i go back and look at freddie, roach’s tape and i can’t see what he had showed pacquiao because pacquiao when he came there he was he’s still fighting the same way.
So there’s a lot of trainers, that’s getting um a plus on their card because of the fighters winning and they really don’t bring a whole lot to the table.
You can kick me out the game.
You can stop me on these interviews, but that’s the truth.
That’S the truth.
You know whoever was in floyd mayweather’s corner was going to get a plus, you know because he was winning all them fights they’re going to get a plus, but floyd is really good.
So whoever was in pacquiao corner he still when the train is win.
Look at sugar hill sugar.
You know, i got them to admit it.
He never had a fight, his uncle trained him and then i called detroit.
I called some people in detroit and they said emmanuel stewart was like um was like um angelo dundee who just come in right, so some people said no um um emanuel stewart.
He really didn’t work the pads a lot with tommy.
There was other people, training them and i said what he said: yeah.
Sometimes you come in and play around and pass, but other people was training tommy and i was like no.
I don’t know about that, and this is what i found out, that he was just like angel dundee can’t take nothing from him, but i’m gon na tell you this.
I love tommy.
He can’t even do an interview with you.
It was all offense uh man, you still was all offense.
Everybody in europe want to go to the crown gym.
Everybody in in ireland, the crunk, the croc, the cronk, and you see what happened.
Tommy hearns and i love him.
I was in camp with him.
We talked all the time we trained together.
He can’t talk.
He can’t do an interview with you guys and so um crowd trim is getting a lot of um a lot of credit and man.
Stewart god bless him.
That was my man he passed away, but but that is a troop.
He was a good offensive trainer, but when it came to defense, the um evidence is in the the boxers.
That’S here today in detroit and stuff like that, so i’m they can say what they want to say about me.
I’Ll still, love everybody.
I still love you man, i don’t i don’t want to fight.
I don’t want to argue, tell me i’m wrong and i’ll say: okay, i apologize, but this is what i see i’ll say.
I’M sorry, but this is what i see yep.
Let me cough so real, quick, my training real quick 10 seconds.
My trainer, we was in the presence of emmanuel stewart and emmanuel stewart was giving slim robinson, big time respect and he was acting on stuff.
This was long time ago.
He was like asking what to do with this guy and i was like i was like something wrong here.
This is all-american trainer right and um.
He asked my trainer some points, so i forgot about it.
Then years later i was like wait a minute and i remember when he was asking slim with this and he gave him big respect, but you can’t take nothing from him, tommy and him or them other boxers.
They fought hell of a fight, but his defense wasn’t really good at all.
He got hit a lot and um.
I just feel bad that he has to live.
He has to live like that now so, but i guess he’s comfortable and everything.
You know it’s unfortunate, but it’s it’s.
What happens it’s, what happens in life? Some guys, you know some guys can can still have it up here and some guys cannot.
You know you know it.
You know you get hit a lot and that’s the result.
That’S the results, yeah right, that’s the results and i think therefore, your question to be on your wilder.
It was valid because you know realistic.
I understand now yeah.
I think you need people in your corner who are going to protect you, not necessarily uh.
You know do things because that’s what the boxing world or that’s what the fans expect, but it your health.
It should be your number one concern your family, you know you, you, your health and your family.
Those should be your two main concerns uh, not how much money you’re gon na make.
If you remain in the fight to the bitter end, because you know i mean if muhammad ali were alive today, he would say the same thing: deonte stop you’ve been you’ve, been injured.
Your brain suffered an injury and you don’t want to end up with parkinson’s or one of those chronic diseases.
Debilitating diseases you’ve got you’ve, got your health now do something else be smart.
He’S got an estimated net worth of 46 and a half million dollars wow.
Well, how much did they get? They got 17 a piece, and then i got other money to add it on.
Here it worked.
It worked out where he collected 40 46 and a half million which puts him at a a personal net worth of 40 million dollars.
So i’m pretty sure he’s got no problem hanging up the gloves going home, kicking up his feet having a drink and uh.
You know contemplating the next, the next, the next era of his life he’s got no problems doing that he might as well.
Hang it up, like i’m other guys right exactly.
You know what he’s 35 years old.
What’S he got he’s got to come back from this he’s not going to get a fight for what another year then it puts him at what 436 you know by the time he has that fight.
It’S going to be.
You know a little fight to boost his confidence, so then, what he’s he’s back in there at 47 or 37 38? What trying to get back into contention to fight what the guy who’s still holding the same belt right? What’S he going to do really go home? Put your feet up, enjoy your 40 million bucks you’re 35 years old you’re done already can retire from working.
You can, you can be done and now just sit back and invest your money.
Invest your money become the face of boxing.
Do something else do you know? What’S funny about the uh, the pre-fight videos that came out of tyson’s fury’s camp? What was that so? The exact opposite.
So, as i was explaining deontay camp releases, training, videos, okay, tyson fury’s camp, wouldn’t release training videos.
What they released is his chef, cooking them up.
Meals, he and his team watching the english football team having a game at uh playing pool these guys were having fun that they weren’t.
You know there was no criticizing them yeah.
I criticized them.
I told them.
I i text them and said: take the videos down.
That’S what i did they didn’t do that in the old days, the old days they wouldn’t put none of that up, so your opponent could capitalize, no, no! I texted them and told them that i text them and said: take them videos down, because i don’t even think tyson fury and them cared about it.
They didn’t even recognize, but in the old days, if we seen tapes we would we would get tapes of our opponent’s, previous fights and stuff and watch them.
So they should so just just so i understand so so when you’re going up against larry holmes, just for example uh you had no no tapes of his.
What you just went into it saying: hey, i’m gon na go find larry.
I seen him fight.
I’M gon na make this quick, so we can get a lot of stuff in so we can get a lot of stuff in um.
I did see him spikes, but all we had to do was just jab.
We got tall guys with long arms and hard jabs for for a month and a half two months, throwing jabs at me sparring with me, but make sure they throw the jabs.
And then then, all i had to do was this block him block him and when i got to that, when that bell rung, i felt so confident and we took his jab away.
We took larry home’s jab away and this what these trainers need to do, find your opponent’s strength and take it away.
So when you get in that ring, that’s that’s less one less thing you have to worry about.
You might get hit with that one shot, but the majority of times you won’t get hit with it.
If you practice it every day and almost to win the fight.
So we practice blocking this jab and look how good we did.
I was comfortable in the ring.
The hell with that jab serious, i know from the old school i’ve been.
I got a lot of knowledge from the old school.
I don’t know everything yeah, but thank god i got with slim cause.
I was with this other guy clarence booker.
He was an amateur trainer, i was getting hit, my mouth was bleeding and the amateurs i went five out of seven fights.
I bought marvin’s frasier, my last one, then i hooked up with slim and everything changed everything changed.
You know for the better yeah i mean.
If i would have stayed with clarence booker, you heard the boogaloo watts the boxer.
No, you know the you know all the middleweight he beat.
He beat marvin hegler.
Oh, come on really all the memory that ever of the middleweights they had that boogaloo watched they had uh uh, they had kitten, no, not kidding, they were dead, marvin hegler, boogaloo watts.
They had robbie once yeah yeah bobby watts, and they had all them.
Heavyweights say that this is wait.
There’S a willy! The warren monroe willie monroe, um god it was like 10 of them and they would they was battling doing the um during the um late 60s and 70s wow.
You know uh cyclone heart, eugene, cyclone heart all those middleweights was battling in philly and all around all around the country, man whoo.
That was a tough.
You know that was tough.
I’M surprised you should know you’re young well, i was just gon na say in that era i would have thought um.
Well, i think, following that era, you would have had your sugar rays, your roberto duran’s.
It was after that they were after and not only not only um um willie the worm beat them too willie.
The worm beat marvin hegler boogaloo watts wow, who blew out yeah.
They beat him, but then he came back and knocked him out, though, that would have been in the air, the vhs tape.
Quite frankly, man i was born in i was raised in the city of boxing philly and i’m out man.
I can’t believe that i was around all these guys.
Joe frazier was there um um, just all kind of boxes just came in.
I was sparring with light heavyweights and and everything heavyweights randy mac.
Who was a southpaw, taught me how to he? He didn’t teach me.
He was a southpaw, that’s why i know that’s how i know how to um uh fight the southpaw.
That’S how i know.
Let me see, let me see here we go hold up so just anthony joshua right yeah in the south paw.
So you put your throw right: hands right, right, hands left hooks right hand left hooks right.
Okay, when you shoot this jab okay, you just go so this is left this right here this area.
Here you don’t put the b here.
You must be over.
Okay! Wait! A minute you push b, it’s on this side.
It’S awkward, i can’t show you.
This is crazy, don’t be in front of the southpaw, see the right hand you go to the outside, and people think people should just leave your left foot on his outside, but don’t tell nobody my secret you’re supposed to keep moving forward.
Some people just stay there.
They leave their left foot on the outside and be throwing hooks, but you got to do more than that.
You got to move behind him and then the southpaw got to turn in this direction and that’s where you can hit him with left hooks and everything.
A lot of people that fight southpaw, they stay right in front of him in his left hand, so when the right hand come you get on the outside and go back, you go back.
I wish i had this thing and i could show you if, if, if anthony joshua fight um, you oops says whatever you still want to fight him in front of him, but really he was going outside of that right hand and go in don’t stay there outside Out there you’re good on the outside of this picture.
This the southpaw arm is left arm is in the back.
The right is in the front, get on don’t stay on the inside that much work on the inside, then fake them go on the outside and go back make them turn into your left, hooks and stuff.
I watch him so he has to square up make it so he gets to square up, so he has to turn the square up yeah and then you hit him yeah.
So a lot of people think he was to stay in front of him or just keep your left foot on and throw that folks.
There’S more to it, and i developed this on.
My own slim didn’t tell me this one.
He did a little bit.
He did a little bit and all anthony joshua has why he stayed in front of him when all he had to do was go on the outside of his lead jab and when he jab slip to the outside, then go in.
Don’T just stay out.
There go in and make him turn to find you if you understand what i’m saying, don’t tell my secret, because i’m waiting for him, i’m waiting for him, i’m trying to be his trainer.
We won’t share this clip no [ Music, ], [, Laughter ].
I’M waiting for him to choose his trainer and then i’m going to show him.
I want to show him right before the fight, but i know they ain’t going to teach him this before the fight you got to go around when i was with kasim uma.
We won the title, he’s used that technique and he won.
He made the guy look stupid.
He never was in front of him where’d you get him with the left hand.
I hope i hope y’all understand what i just would have just said.
You know when yourself paul shoot that right hand you got to go on the outside, but don’t stay outside, go in the back, go in the back and make them turn into.
You can do that movement continue that movement.
You know what i’m talking about right.
Yeah continue the movement exactly the movement, let them square up and by the time they square up, you’re ready to go.
Bang bang didn’t joshua stay right in front of him yeah he did.
He did if you could never move back.
He never moved back in the back.
No, so we can’t hit him with that straight left, so he moved this way.
Do you have any more questions? But you said you said that music came in on the inside and beat him on the inside basically uh.
He was playing the outside too, very well, very, very well, yeah, because that, because joshua stayed in front of him right, he stayed in front of him.
Even if, if you seth put his hands around his hip, i still would shoot to the back because he still got a turn in your direction and then you just throw that left hook on him and he said, but they stayed in front.
Oh hit me with the right hand, he should’ve threw the right hand harder.
He was like throwing this off right hand left hook, then go to the body, but don’t stay and directly in front of them get around the back, so make them work to hit you with that left hook that left straight left make them work, make them turn This way define you, you stay right in front, get bam bam bam, but they need to know the old school.
I’M i’m glad that i was hanging around all those old guys that knew the old tricks before they passed away.
Um and there’s still some more guys.
Bernard hopkins uncle arthur mccloud, he passed away, um slim robinson’s, nephew, greg robinson.
He knows it aaron snowwell, that was with don king.
He was with me, he knows it boy is you know, and you can see it man.
I wish i was helping some of these guys just to show them.
That’S all! No, don’t give them any of your secrets, because then then, then you’ll be able to create a new champion tim.
Oh wait! A second you’re making me wonder there tim because quite frankly, if there are, i don’t know 20 000 boxers right now in the united states.
Let’S just say to pick a number out there, like how many trainers are there.
There can’t be that many.
So it’s got to be a lot of them, a lot of them, but how many do we, how many we can put on one hand how many we know? Okay, i was asked that question today in the interview i couldn’t, i couldn’t think of it.
They said who this was the question? Who, who are the trainers today? Um? That’S.
You know that that’s really making a difference, and i was like dumbfounded.
I was like, oh god i don’t know, i don’t know who’s who is um.
Freddie, roach, buddy mcgirt, but mcgirt is one.
Is i guess, buddy mcgirt, i don’t know they.
They said that joshua was in california trying to find it.
You know get a get a trainer and i think, he’s over there with buddy mcgurk and freddie roach and that guy uh just what’s her name.
You know virgil hunter, oh yeah.
I guess i’ve got a i’ve got a list of guys.
I’Ve got a list of boxing trainers in the united states alone: okay, who are trained champions, uh; no, but just a list of trainers.
There are a ton of trainers, it is yeah.
Well, i guess there’s strength and conditioning coaches and the trainers of pedigree who have trained champions and that’s what i’m saying it’s like uh.
If we follow who are the coaches, who’ve won stanley cups, who have the coaches who’ve won super bowls like who are? Who are the top trainers right now in boxing who can take? We just can’t name them.
I mean yeah.
We give him a handful, but that’s what i’m saying i mean did y’all still see my face: yeah, okay, because there’s something says: private chat, eric boyle! Oh no, that was eric typing in saying uh.
This is a trainer out of uh uk called chris boyle, who i believe mike has interviewed.
Yes, i have who did he train? Oh he’s training, a bunch of women right now: okay, women champions, yeah he’s also he’s.
Also got a stable he’s, got a stable, both mixed male and female uh, where, where is he at he’s he’s in the uk? Where is he in brighton? No, no! No! He’S uh he’s in the midlands! Isn’T he? Yes, i believe so.
Warsaw he’s supportive uh.
What xbox boxing i don’t know if you’ve heard about it tim you know i haven’t been there for, like i, i would say on my daughter, no [, __, ] yeah, oh shania, when the last time he was over in the uk three years ago.
Is that your manager yeah, you know she was born in tottenham, i told you she’s, born in tottenham.
I got a grandson in barnsley um.
You know if i were to get the job.
I was gon na go over there, so she could see her mom and everybody.
Is she a hot spurs fan what hot spurs the spurs tottenham works works up.
This works up, yeah that that’s where uh that’s where chris boyle is from yeah, it works out, but i’m pretty sure that’s midlands.
Okay, i don’t know oh um yeah.
So there are some fights on tonight.
Man um the uh yeah, the neverending gonzalez card.
That’S uh! That’S gon na be good man, gonzalez 24 and one fourteen kos was last seen in the ring defeating three-time world champion uh miguel marietta at the mgm grand back in september 12th to 2020.
um navarette, he’s 34-1 with 29 ko’s and is 8-0 right now, with six Knockouts in the world title fights uh busy champion, run uh that began back in december of 2018.
These guys are gon na clash.
You know, go toe-to-toe on that same card uh the uh the under i guess.
The co-main event is giovanni.
Uh santillion he’s 27-0 right.
Now he’s going to be fighting angel rez who’s 17 at one 2012 division we got henry lebron he’s 13-0 fighting uh emmanuel, rojes who’s; 21-5.
That’S a super feather.
We’Ve got also the super light: uh lindolfo delgado 13-0 against uh, garcia, mendes, who’s, 24, 4 and 2.
, and also a couple guys that i’ve talked about before floyd diaz and jose ramirez uh they’re on the card.
Plus we got a.
We got a debut on this card, so uh yeah, it’s gearing up for you a nice night.
Is this the fight in sinaloa uh? This is the fight is uh.
This is the one that’s in california.
It’S on usa, espn plus.
This is not the sinaloa fights with sinaloa fights um.
That is well.
We first of all, we’ve got a fight going on in malta tonight, if you guys can catch it on the united kingdom uh fight zone uh.
That should be a good one.
A bunch of uh, a bunch of names that i’ve i’ve seen around.
I don’t know if anybody else has uh.
It’S only got one side of the competition listed.
Everything else is to be announced.
Then we got the uh sinaloa card, uh, santiago, dominguez versus uh.
Jesus antonio ribo and that’s for the uh vacant, wbc latino welter title is going up for grabs there and then we got jose nunez against uh uh, oswaldo maldona and uh.
That’S uh! That’S another big fight, 21-1 versus ten and one some guys going to uh.
Be throwing some gloves there for sure also also the cinaloa guys.
We also got mexico city man there’s another one going on in mexico, city uh.
We got vega versus torres and that’s for the wba uh light fly title so guys lots of fights on tonight.
If you can catch them, if you can find the streams yeah true and tomorrow night, we got mikey garcia, going yeah yeah yeah.
I heard mike it’s that tall kid right: yeah yeah, the toilet, oh yeah, so we got the mikey, garcia, garcia and martin and then on the same card.
We got sato and gonzalez for the uh wb uh wbo world light fly title and then we got bermudez and rodriguez fighting for the wba world, light fly title and also we have the uh.
We have the fury gun wow, oh yeah.
He was huge for him.
Yeah we have, we have uh he what is it huey, huey [ Applause, ], uh they’re, going to go toe-to-toe at it and obviously he’s not bad.
Now he always not bad.
I know i think he’s watching my do you rate him and technical skills, tyson marshall, savannah marshall’s on that card, which uh i’ve been waiting to see, uh jump in the ring there for a little while, since your last uh overseas is that in england, that’s in England and i’m pretty sure her opponent’s undefeated right uh.
Yes, i believe so i believe so mendoza so tyson tyson to be at that fight.
Yeah, she’s uh.
Her name is miss mizuye lolita, the black diamond mizue uh she’s 16 16-0, with eight knockouts right, savannah’s gon na have her hands full on that fight.
For sure, where is she from? Where is she from where’s she from uh?
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