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EPISODE: Episode 4
Cedric discusses the scorecard of Garcia (36-3-0, 21 KOs) faces Benavidez (27-1-1, 18 KOs) in a junior middleweight bout from Barclays Center in Brooklyn, N.Y.
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Transcribed:
What up what up? What up? Welcome back to the scorecard the boxing scorecard, where i ask people to bring their scorecard and an explanation? Not just simply your opinion.
Last night we had a um, a super welterweight um.
It wasn’t a title match just uh, just a good, a good fight between uh, the return of danny swift, garcia and jose luis yeah, jose luis benavidez jr.
We can get those slides up um, so this was uh.
Both guys are still getting accustomed to the 154 pound division, um, so they’re originally like they.
Both these guys usually fight at the weight class underneath um, but they both moved up, stepped up in order to get some bigger fights um.
So we’ll see what happens so.
The um, the scorecard the official scorecard for the officials was uh was a majority decision for danny swift, garcia.
The exact score cards were, let me get it up here: um the scorecards, the judges had it a lot closer than i had it.
Um one judge had it a draw one fourteen one fourteen i got ta start to call these judges out too this waleska roldman.
How the hell did you get score that fight 114 114? That is crazy.
Um tony paolino had it 117 111 for danny garcia and glenn feldman.
Had it 116 112 for danny swift, garcia.
My official scorecard was 119 to 109 for for danny swift, garcia um.
Now let me go through it.
Even though um it was a wide score.
There was a couple of close rounds that um.
You know that that could have went either way.
Now, with that being said, even though i added a wide score um, those five rounds that i marked as close rounds, the first three rounds, the first three rounds and and the la and nine and ten david chase.
What up? What up? I see your comment right there.
Let me just get through my um, my my score card through each round and then i’m gon na get to all the comments.
I really appreciate good morning, david um, so yeah.
I had five close rounds now.
If, if my i gave garcia four out of the five close rounds that i scored, i gave garcia four of those close rounds and one of those one of the other rounds i gave to uh to benavidez, so i mean, if i now remember again, if it’s A close round it could have went either way if i would have gave all five of the close rounds to benavidez.
The score still would have been 115 113 for uh for garcia, so i still had him winning, even even if benavidez won one.
Even if i gave benavidez all those close rounds um to go through it real quick first round, i go go through my notes.
Real quick for each round um first round was very close again.
The first three rounds were close rounds as as wide as it as garcia opened it up later on in the fight.
The first three rounds were very close um.
My notes for the first round was very close round.
Garcia, good body work in the first two minutes.
Benavidez had some good jabs at the end, um yeah benavidez, the one thing about garcia.
He is, he does get touched up with a lot of jabs.
You don’t really see him get hit with other combinations other.
He doesn’t really get blasted with big shots, but you know when he fought earl, spencer, spence, just jabbed him up all night.
That’S this is one one weakness is getting is for garcia’s getting hit.
Danny garcia is getting hit with that jab all the time round.
Two.
I also marked it as a close round um.
I had my notes for round two: was benavidez landed a bit more cleaner and had garcia backing up now? Just because you have your opponent, backing up doesn’t automatically mean that you’re winning the round, but i believe i do believe benavidez um established himself a little bit more better in that second round, even though it was closer than i gave it.
I still gave to give it to benavidez third round third round.
I also marked as the close round my notes for the third round were, who did i give it to you, though? My notes for the third round were um.
I gave that third round to garcia.
So the first round, garcia second round benavidez third round garcia again mario notes for the third round – was benefited.
Benavidez clearly won the first minute um.
The second minute was garcia and the third minute was garcia.
That’S the thing! Sometimes, when you’re scoring these fights, especially a close round, you got to really look at it minute by minute in a three minute round.
You really got to pay attention minute by minute.
That’S why i wrote the third round like that, because i thought the whole fight was going to be like this, so i broke it down in that third round.
Benavidez clearly won the first minute second minute of the round uh garcia, took over and in that third minute, garcia held it held himself and and won that round.
I believe, still close round round number four was uh from rounds four until until uh the whole thing.
Actually, that was for the rest of the fight.
I gave all rounds of garcia but quick notes.
Fourth round clear for garcia, however, garcia gets hit with way too many jam too many jabs, that’s his weakness.
Yeah, like i said what up zev like i said, i’m just getting through my my round for round notes for each round and i’m gon na get to all you guys comments.
Thank you very much for for being here, uh round number five, my notes where the shorter boxer is looking better from the outside.
Just because you have a longer reach doesn’t mean you know how to use it to your advantage.
Um benavidez was the taller longer fighter and in most case not not even in most cases, i i’m so explain to people all the time, just because you’re taller and longer doesn’t automatically mean that you have an advantage.
If you don’t know how to use that advantage.
Uh, you guys often hear me talking about someone having a an educated jab right again.
It’S not just about having longer reaches being able to use that in a smart way.
Um benavidez, the one good thing that he was doing was jabbing.
That’S that’s the one good thing that he was doing was doing with jabbing.
However um, as the fight was going on, benavidez was was getting uh kind of out of his out of his game.
He wasn’t jabbing as much and garcia as the shorter fighter, danny garcia.
As the shorter fighter was actually doing better from the outside than uh than benavidez round, six um garcia is opening him up still still getting hit with jabs, though so i said, going into round, six garcia was was was clearly winning.
However, he was still getting hit with lots of jabs man, you’re still getting hit with lots of jabs and and that that is not going to work against some of the better guys, especially at the higher weight class at 154 pounds round six uh, i mean sorry Round seven uh, garcia, good body work, benevita spending, more energy, talking [ __ ] than offense yeah.
At this point you can tell benavidez it’s almost like he.
He um he kind of not gave up, but he realized that he he was down on the scorecards and just he was trying to bait yeah you see benavidez with a nice shot there.
He was trying to bait um garcia, to make a mistake.
So so so he could land so benavidez would be able to land a big shot, but garcia was fighting smart.
He wasn’t, you know, he’s experienced he’s one of the best guys.
Then he actually has one of the best resumes in boxing i’m gon na go after i’m gon na talk about that in a minute after um after i go through this round eight, what we got round, eight garcia on cruise control, no worries at all round.
Nine.
Oh round nine and ten i marcus close rounds.
I still gave them to garcia, but they were close rounds because benavidez was tapping him up a little bit.
Benavidez was tapping him up a little bit um round nine garcia, getting tapped up a bit, as i just said, uh around 10 also marked as a close round um i said garcia is winning, but he can’t fight like this versus the top guys at 154.
Getting tapped up way too much not bombed on, but tapped so again, um benavidez was landing punches, not like concerning punches that he wasn’t like benavidez, wasn’t landing any big bombs on garcia, but he still was landing he’s still with lady.
You can see after the fight garcia’s face was a little bit swollen, not not bad, but you could tell he did get tapped up a little bit round: 11 uh benavidez spending more time talking and um and uh round 12 round 12 i’d.
Even i didn’t even mark uh any notes around 12 because it was, it was clear by then all right, all right.
So, let’s get to the note so yeah final score: 119.
109 for for garcia.
I had it all right.
Let’S get to the to the comments over here how’d i go back down my man david chase.
Thank you for being up with me this morning.
The showtime commentators were really doing.
Uh were really doing something really annoying.
They were creating a narrative as the fight went on after nine rounds.
They started setting setting compubox numbers and saying benavidez had so benavidez had so much less body shots landed in his last fight, as as, if they had any bearing on this fight, um yeah, you know, i guess the commentators are just they’re just trying to do their Best to to to sell a story for the for the casual fans that are watching um, [, Music ], the the truth going into this fight is was uncertainty, because what i was what i was doing in my research in in you know, trying to see who Would has the advantage um david benavidez is it’s kind of hard to to judge him, because if you look at his best performance when he fought terence crawford, he actually gave terence crawford a good goal.
Terence crawford stopped him, i think in the 11th or 12th round, but throughout that fight was was was close like at no point in time was, was terence crawford dominating david uh, jose benavidez during that fight like he was winning, but he wasn’t dominating him um right Up until that that uh, that crawford caught him in that 11th round – and everyone knows terence crawford – is one of the best boxers in the whole sport of boxing pound for pound and benavidez gave him a good go.
However, that was back in 2018 and since then he’s only fought one fight against francisco emmanuel torres and it was a draw um you know francisco torres is not you know, definitely not an a-class fighter.
You’D probably consider him a b or c-plus fighter and and benavidez had a draw with him so, and that was last year, so his best performance was in 2018.
He had one performance, one, one more fight, one fight since then in two last year, and it was a draw, so it was kind of hard to judge which benavidez was going to show up last night um yeah, yeah yeah.
I had a feeling that he would start out slow.
I was writing that.
I i should have told you my my official prediction before the fight was an 11th round uh stoppage for danny garcia, because i knew that i had a feeling that benavidez would take a long a little bit longer to get going um, which he did uh.
Just.
Never got going enough uh, so yeah, that’s my take on mr benavidez uh, david chase.
What else you got? Danny’S body is a small target and he’s shorter benavidez had like a crow had to like crouch down to danny’s height at times land shots yeah you’re right.
I did notice that too, but there was no like when you’re fighting someone shorter.
You don’t necessarily have to bend yourself down to get to their height, which is what benavidez was strangely doing at times during the fight like he was like bit like squatting down to to danny garcia’s height, for some reason.
Uh i mean if he was if he was doing it, because he saw some type of advantage that he’d be able to take care of.
I could understand him doing it, but he didn’t there was no.
He didn’t really do anything off of that.
He only was just bend down and give him a different look, but he didn’t do anything off of that different look.
So i had a hard time.
Understanding why benefit is benavidez was bending low like that so yeah yeah yeah.
That’S the question all right.
My man zev, my man zev, had it 118 110.
um.
His notes was that benavidez won round one decently um two others were kind of close.
He got beat up in nine in the nine others landing some odd punches.
That seemed more like trick shots or like he was trying to for some style points, yeah yeah yeah, that’s the thing about benavidez he’s um.
He has experience, but he’s not like your traditional punching boxer.
Like he’s he’s not going to come with the with with the traditional one, two hook, he’ll just randomly put his hands to the side and just throw a straight cross um so yeah he.
He is awkward like that.
Throwing punches from different angles, and maybe one of the reasons why danny garcia couldn’t really get him out of there, because uh just because of benefit his awkwardness.
That might have been the reason why my man, carl from the last bell boxing, show in the uk.
What up what up boom from the uk? Thank you for being up and listening, oh not up this afternoon, for you guys in the uk right now.
Isn’T it yeah? That’S right! Um! Also, my man zev says garcia had won it garcia.
118.
110.
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I thought he looked good sure he’s small sure he lacks power at 154, but his speed reflexes, footwork composure, accuracy um, could trouble guys at the weight.
Yes, here’s the thing about uh, danny garcia um shout out to my boy randy, because he mentioned this too danny garcia has danny garcia, has very good timing, a very good time, yeah um, because for his whole career, let’s go through.
Let’S go through danny’s, danny garcia’s career because i swear to god for this guy’s whole career, all of his big fights early in his career.
I i was picking him to lose because his technique is not the best, like he’s kind of sloppy, with his hooks with his hooks and doesn’t really move his head that much um.
So a lot of in earlier in his career for a lot of his big fights, i was actually picking him to lose and he proved me wrong every time just pulling up his uh his resume here.
Um yeah man, danny garcia, is one of the best resumes in boxing underrated.
He beat kendall holt, who um for the casual fan might not know that name but kendall.
Holt was a very good boxer, beat him by split decision back in 2011 2012.
He beat eric morales one of the greatest mexican boxers, not just mexican greatest boxers ever of his generation eric morales.
He beat him the unanimous decision he knocked out amir khan back in 2012 with timing again, amir khan was winning that fight.
Everyone knows: amir khan is a great boxer, his speed, his speed and accuracy um, but the only thing when amir khan, he throws at the same speed all the time.
So that’s how that’s, how guys could usually time him in all americans fights he’s usually winning them, but because every punch is coming at 100 miles an hour after a while guys could kind of time that and catch him, and that’s exactly what danny garcia did when He fought amir khan caught him.
Put him to sleep.
Um had a rematch danny garcia in 2012, had a rematch with eric morales and this time knocked him out in the fourth round 2013, he fought zab judah and won by unanimous decision, zab judah man.
His next fight was against lucas matisse, another another, tough guy.
At that time, one of the top guys at that time one wins by unanimous decision.
Um had a couple of c-level fighters in between then he beat lamont peterson.
Another guy who was good at the time, beat him by majority decision.
Then he knocks out paulie malinaji, who in 2015 not known as a knockout puncher, but definitely a great boxer, um 2016.
He beats robert guerrero by unanimous decision.
Um 2016.
He beat samuel vargas who’s, a c-level fighter, but he’s canadian.
So i just got ta give him a shout out um and uh in 2007, and then a few of his losses came to the top top guys in boxing in 2017, he first suffered his first loss to keith one time, thurman um.
He lost that one by split decision.
Very that was a very close fight.
He didn’t get blown out that was very close um, he knocked out, brandon bam bam rios and then he lost a unanimous decision.
It was unanimous on his scorecards, but it was closer than the scorecard show to sean showtime, porter, um, [, Music, ], yeah, yeah yeah and then lost the unanimous.
The only the only time that he’s convincingly lost was to was to earl spence, and that was again that was this by jabs he didn’t get beat up, he didn’t get dropped.
He didn’t like at no point in time was: was the fight close to getting stopped when he fought earl spence but earl spence, just simply outclassed him um with his boxing skills, mainly the jab um? What else we got here where where’s the questions that where’s uh where’s the questions in the comments in the in the comment section here: um so yeah that was uh, that was danny, garcia’s uh career.
He that guy he’s had a very um, very fulfilled career.
So, where do both boxes go from here? That’S my question in the chat right now.
That is my question in the chat right now.
Where does danny garcia? Where do both fighters go from here? Uh david chase, zev carl answer.
My question: please, oh pause! It right here um.
This is i’m glad.
This picture came up pause it right here.
This um, danny garcia’s, post fight, um, post fight speech in the ring was was uh was very very moving.
He spoke from his heart um.
If you get a chance, please go to youtube and youtube his post fight press, not the post fight press conference when they’re in the back room but like when they’re inside the ring talking immediately after the fight um.
You know he broke down crying talking about his anxiety and and his mental health issues and um.
You know it’s crazy.
How the mind could play tricks on you.
He talked about um, i seen another interview, and this was actually the post fight press conference where he talked about uh.
You know when he was a kid.
He always dreamed of fight about fighting in front of millions of people like he dreamed about that, and he did it and all of a sudden.
You know he woke up and then not just.
I think it gradually came on.
But you know after a while, like in recent years he didn’t want to.
He didn’t want to fight anymore um, and he said that was just messing with his head and he said even during training camp, even during his training camp.
There was times that he was doubting himself like because he’s he’s been out of the ring for, for probably a year and a half um.
You know he was actually doubting himself, and these are things like you know.
These are things that people don’t don’t think about.
That’S going on in the mind of a boxer, and everyone goes through to mental health issues, issues right, um, i’m not saying anybody’s mental health issues are more severe than others.
Obviously, there are some cases that are more severe than others, but um, specifically, if you’re an athlete specifically in a sport like boxing where it’s one on one and there’s no timeouts, and you can’t go to the bench and put your head in the towel.
And so nobody could could see you crying like you’re you’re, it’s all you um, so it really takes some some serious mental strength to pull yourself back out of that that uh.
You know that dark hole that you might be in doubting yourself and and just not feeling confident that you’re able to to perform to your best to your best abilities and um.
You can keep it going.
I think there’s another picture of him, i’m kind of with the same kind of expression yeah that one right there see like and he and he was trying to hold his tears back too, like he was trying to hold his tears back um.
So you know he was really speaking from the heart a couple of years ago.
This guy was on top of the world.
He had the belts.
I just i just talked to you about his resume.
He beat a lot of the top guys and and if he didn’t beat them, he was right there in a close fight with them and then um, and then you know somehow he he got that mental block, his brain, that wouldn’t let him wouldn’t.
Let him tell himself that he’s a great boxer and a great person, not even a great boss, just a great person in general.
Sometimes you got to forget about what your, what your, what your job is and just think about um you know just take care of yourself mentally.
So i’m very glad, i’m very happy for danny garcia that um that he’s that he’s come back.
He still said he’s struggling every day, it’s still a struggle, um, um and so boxing, and this is a little bit off topic.
But you know when i train people not even not the competitive boxers, but just in general, you know a lot of people will say that boxing helps helps them not recover but actually deal with their with their mental issues.
A lot a lot of times, if you just physically, like if you’re, dealing with anxiety or any type of mental health issue, if you can make yourself physically tired, like just do something to make yourself physically tired, i believe it.
It helps deal with um, whatever anxiety or stress, that you’re that you’re going through you’re still going to have the problem still going to be there, but at least you mentally could kind of handle it um and a little bit better through boxing.
So that’s my little shout out there for anyone going through any mental health issues, stay strong, stay positive and get yourself into a boxing gym or hit me up at cedric sports.
Yes, yes, we got some more comments coming in my man, chris peter says worst case.
I see it eight to four for garcia should have been 12 to two for garcia yeah yep.
I uh.
I definitely could see that chris peters um uh yeah um.
You know.
I guess that the eight to four that the couple of rounds that um that the judges did did give to benavidez um i’d like to know which rounds exactly that.
They were the same way.
How i tell you guys the exact rounds that i have uh, that i marked close i’d love to know the rounds that the judges had marked for benavidez, because that’d be very, very interesting um.
So yeah? Where does benavidez go from here? Um has he’s looked kind of shaking his last two.
His last two starts uh.
He see in his last fight.
He had a draw against a journeyman and then this, but he just had a loss against um against danny garcia one of the best.
Well and that’s the thing, though danny garcia is probably one of the best at 147 at 147 pounds, but at 154.
Is this a different ball game? You might, you might not think it’s too much, because it’s just one weight class up but um.
There are some sharks in that and now water at 154 pounds chris peters.
What are you saying after looking like an autumn ottoman in his last few in his last few bouts, it was nice to see garcia, looking, looking active and energetic? Yes, yes, exactly um, i think it more had to do with with the mental health issues that he was going through, because his last fight against earl spence, like i said he didn’t he lost convincingly, but he didn’t get, beat up or hurt seriously hurt.
He just lost by simply being out jabbed out boxed by earl spence.
He just errol spence has jabbed the f out of him all night.
Long and garcia couldn’t handle it um and then the fight before that against uh red catch.
What’S his name, uh um, yeah yeah against red cats.
Redcats is another a guy, that’s um, garcia 1.
5, a unanimous decision and went to full distance, but ivan red cat is one of those guys.
That’S that’s kind of awkward kind of like man of how i described benavidez and that uh.
You know it’s hard to time him because he’s just always doing awkward, awkward, stuff, that’s hard to hard to get to him um.
So what is next um? Sorry, i didn’t.
I don’t think i finished saying what was next for benavidez.
What is next for benavidez is.
He needs to to get back in the gym and get more active um.
How old is mr benavidez here? Let me check his age and go from there.
He is 30 years old.
No, he has 30 bouts yeah he’s 30 years old too so yeah he’s he still has time.
He still has time to um to to come back and make something of himself.
If he’s gon na stay at 154 pounds, he needs to tighten up that defense and um and just be more active, like i said when he did the same thing when he fought terence crawford after a while when he when he was when, when he was getting Frustrated that he couldn’t get to him and all he would do is just you know, put his hands down.
Stick his tongue out just kind of showboat to to try to throw try to throw his opponent off, but against the top level, guys that that stuff doesn’t work.
Um david chase says you got two comments here.
Oh we got more whoa whoa whoa.
We got way more sorry, i missed a lot here.
My man carl says mental health men must must get better at talking, yeah you’re right man.
You know, you know how guys are just in general, um guys, try to just tough it out and uh and not talk about talk about their issues, but it’s okay, man.
I mean some guys some people not guys some females too.
Some people can some people can’t handle it themselves and just need to be alone for a little bit just to handle their their personal issues.
But some people need someone to talk to, but they they they have a barrier specifically with guys.
They have a you know their pride, won’t.
Let them talk to someone so yeah yeah yeah.
Do that, if you don’t want to talk at least like here, is this? If you don’t want to talk to someone just join a boxing gym and just go smash the bag, at least that’s the least thing you could do all right.
I promise that’ll help with that with some of the deal with the anxiety and issues my man david chase, says: if garcia chooses to remain at 154, his career his career will definitely be over um.
Danny gives up too much height reach and wait.
Um come fight night, garcia is five foot eight inches tall with a 68 inch reach.
Thank you for those statistics on danny garcia’s reach, and i i agree with you.
Man at 154 pounds he’s gon na he’s.
Gon na have really have to use his timing and power to to try to keep these guys off of him, because that you know he fought um.
He fought earl spence at 147 pounds earl spence, just boxed the crap out of him just with a jab.
He didn’t like, i said ross pence, never hurt him, but at no point time did anybody see danny garcia, winning that fight or even being in the fight um.
So if he’s gon na be staying at 154 and how old is danny garcia by the way? Let’S check how old he is hold on one second, here, danny garcia is 34 years old, all right all right, so he’s on the last, he probably 34 years old, he’s, probably a fight till he’s, probably 37 38.
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His record, as of now is 37 wins 21 knockouts with three losses.
Then garcia once again has won the best resumes in boxing.
Go.
Look it up right now, if you don’t believe me um, so what is next for him? If he’s staying at 154 yeah man there’s this a lot of big sharks at 154.
, um that fight with him and tony harrison is very interesting.
Shout out to my boy tony harrison um right across the board.
We go to his gym for sparring.
A lot um financially danny garcia is the more brings more to the table financially, but but um skills wise harrison.
I think harrison would get danny garcia.
What do you guys think in the chat here? Oh, we got a lot more comments.
I’M gon na get to these comments in a second but um yeah at 154 you had uh.
You had um tony harrison very interesting that danny garcia called out um lara and uh who’s, the other guy.
He called oh yeah.
Keith thurman.
That would be very interesting.
That would be very interesting, keith thurman versus danny garcia.
I would i would.
I would like to see that rematch again, because that was a very close fight, the first time uh.
Whatever comments we got here, david chase charlo, on the other hand, is six foot with 73 inch reach at 104, yeah man – i don’t garcia versus charlotte.
I don’t know that that that would be very tough for mr garcia, my man zev says danny garcia.
At this point will be a stepping stone for up and coming 54 pounders.
He may be able to beat some c or b level fighters, but i don’t think he will be ever he’ll ever get a belt at that weight um.
Well, that’s the reason why he was calling out iris landi lara, because lara has like uh uh, not one of the major ones, but i think a wba or wbo belt at 154 and if you can get that belt that might entice uh um.
One of the other guys at 154 to fight him for that um.
I know garcia has been talking about.
He he’d like to have a he’d like to relive that rematch with uh earl spence, but i i don’t think that would go well for him right now.
Let me get a couple more wins, especially at 154.
um.
What else you guys have zev says: garcia has no real power at 147.
, he’s going to be tiny at 154, if somehow he gets a shot at charlo he’ll lose by brutal ko.
Even the limited tim zoo would take him out, um yeah, he said brutal, koa you’re serious.
Well again, this thing is garcia’s.
Defensive weakness is how many times he gets hit with jabs like it kills me for someone at such a high level.
Who’S fought the guys that he’s fought some of the best guys in the sport throughout his career.
He he gets hit with a way more jabs than than he should be way more jabs and and and if guys took more advantage of that, then you know because the jab, the jab starts, every single combination, not not that it has to start it, but it Makes everything easier if you can establish your job a lot better and and yeah? That’S that’s! That’S garcia’s weaknesses is how much times he gets hits with a jab so um.
I don’t know about brutal kl again, it’s possible because, because charlo, that guy is he doesn’t play with his power man.
Charlo has some serious, serious ko power, so yeah yeah.
It is a possibility.
Tim zoo, i think tim’s needs a little bit more experience.
Man, like tim zu, looks good.
He looked in his last fight when he fought terrell gashe.
He looked good against terrell gashe, but that that was his biggest name on his career again, you look at garcia’s resume it.
What, even though it was in the lower weight classes? Yes, it was at the lower weight classes um, but just his experience, fighting fighting top level guys, so the only way would be even i guess would be because of the fight would be at 154 pounds um with tim zoo, but danny garcia, vs tim zoom.
I don’t that fight.
First of all, that fight wouldn’t happen right now, financially, because tim zoo doesn’t bring enough to the table for for danny garcia to to take that challenge.
So that fight wouldn’t happen, charlo again, if, if garcia, could get that belt from lara that might entice charlo to take that fight and get another belt, what else we got a few more comments in here, my man, nick leishman, says: yes, benavidez wasn’t a real 154, But the speed and movement could be an issue, along with the hand, speed and counters.
Also don’t forget: charlo struggled mighty against harrison’s movement encounters.
Yes, that is right um.
That is right in both of those fights when uh, when uh tony harrison fought.
Jermell charlo i had tony harrison winning both of those fights first fight was actually closer.
The first fight was closer.
The second fight i had tony harrison like winning like clearly winning up until the time he got stopped um.
So yes, it did charlo does have have trouble with uh guys that have good boxing skills um.
He does knock him out in the rematch, though both rematches that charlo had with the guys that outboxed him sort of out boston in the first fight.
He knocked them both out in a rematch so that that yeah that’d be interesting for charlo uh nick says not saying: garcia beats charlo, but it might be interesting.
Yeah yeah, like i just said it would be uh interesting.
My man carl says tim zoo is bang average and will get found out even at world, even at even world level, never mind elite level, tim zoo hype, job, okay, okay, okay, we see the carl um well when we say hype job like give him a chance.
Let’S give him a chance to to see how he does against the top level guys first before we call him a hype job if he, if he fights the top level guys – and he doesn’t look good or even worse case scenario – gets stopped or something like that.
Then we call him a hype job, but he hasn’t really that his best competition so far is is um terrell gashe, who was a 2012 olympian um, not a knockout puncher, but a very good skilled boxer and i believe tim zu stopped him in that fight.
The tim’s will stop him uh.
Somebody said, let me know, i know tim zoo got got dropped early in the fight, he got dropped earlier in the first or second round, but whether the storm and came back living off his dad’s name, i mean that’s, that’s that’s the promoter, you know, that’s not.
That’S just the promoter trying to uh make the most out of uh and make the most money most money out of their product.
I guess you could say for a less lack of a better term, the same way, how they’re doing with muhammad ali’s grandson, nico nico ali walsh.
You know every single time you hear his name on tv they’re, mentioning right next to it: um [, Music ].
You know it just helps promote the fighter, and i mean it’s really for the promotion of the fighter, not to say that that that uh, that tim, suzu or nico ali walsh is going to be exactly like their father or grandfather.
But it just helps bring the casual fan um, you know just bring more casual fans to to the sport to watch it because they recognize they might recognize that name uh.
What else you saying carl has a great great great ant from canada somewhere password application.
No! No, no! No! Well! You know what i don’t.
I don’t mind we’ll take we but canada.
We need some.
We need some good boxes, so yeah well i’ll i’ll, send tim zu the the passport application see if he wants to come train at my gym and uh there.
You have it 35 minutes.
I’Ve been talking for a while man, any more questions or comments.
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Boxing show they got there.
They go, live every thursday uh thoughts on jake, paul’s cancellation, man.
Obviously they i didn’t.
I didn’t.
I just read the headline.
I didn’t click on anything to see the exact reason why, but i’m assuming it just got canceled, because there was no.
There was no hype behind it like that fight was supposed to be next week like there was no.
There was no hype behind it like like, like any other fights, i think in his other fights and jake paul’s other fights like he actually fought, even though they weren’t real boxers, but he actually fought like household names um.
He thought uh whether it was um i’ll.
Give you one word circus yeah.
I mean it’s a circus, but again for for a promoter, financially he’s bringing more more more people to the sport.
You know what’s crazy, i get people that random people that i know don’t really box bop or watch boxing regularly.
That will text me or send me a demon asking me about the paul brothers and and their you know who they’re fighting so for hardcore boxing fans for hardcore boxing fans.
Yes, we look at it.
Look at these guys like what is this circus act like what is going on um? What i, what i, what we do have to give them credit for is attracting more attention to the sport, because remember these guys didn’t have to box both these paul brothers.
Before these guys even got into boxing, these guys had like these guys had like 35 million followers on youtube all right, so it’s not like they.
They got into boxing to to make themselves more popular.
These guys were already millionaires multi-millionaires, with 35 million followers on youtube.
Before they started boxing so with that being said, even though they you know the way they talk and stuff like that, they’re very good at getting their name out there, but they’re bringing more money to the sport.
So that’s the one thing i could say uh crowd.
We stand here and the wc we’re going to give ranking points to jake paul this grace um.
I don’t know i i i are you sure about that they were they really going to give them ranking points for anyways.
I don’t know, that’s a whole different story.
Man, that’s a little different story: um.
This was actually the first boxer actual boxy that he was going to face um a a c level boxer, but at least he was a professional boxer himself um.
So you know – and if you think about it like, if you think about it, like he’s, actually moved up in competition slowly like just think about this for a second, his first fight and sometimes that confused the brother.
So some sorry, if i’m wrong with this, but his first fight was against a youtuber right.
His first fight was against a youtuber.
His second fight was against a a basketball player, but at least a professional athlete right.
So at least a small step up.
He fought a professional athlete his next two fights were against.
His next fight was against an mma uh, an mma guy, not not a a definitely not known as a striker, but a mma guy, wrestler ben asprin, and then his fourth fight was against a a usc hall of famer in um tyrone woodley.
Again, arrests are not known for his striking skills, but still a ufc hall of famer and that’s who.
So, if you look at his fights, he actually has stepped up the competition slowly and uh.
This next fight that got cancelled against uh against the team.
Rockmon jr was again a step up, because this was actual first fight against a real boxer, so it would have been interesting to see how he would have done, but they again they canceled it.
Probably because nobody was talking about.
There was no hype behind no hype behind it, so uh yeah and there you have it so so so.
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I every time i try to get out, they pull me back in carl.
What are you saying? I doubt the effort is just the fact of boxers coming up the hard way without opportunities um without the fact effort of bosses.
Well, what i doubt i don’t doubt.
Oh i don’t i don’t doubt the effort.
It is just the fact of boxers coming up the hard way without opportunities, um yeah yeah.
I hear you man, i hear you working the small hall shows and graph and crafting over the years to get onto the big shows just seems unfair cheers.
I hear you man like they they kind of skip the line.
I i understand what you’re saying carl, usually um boxes when you, when you, when you turn pro you’re fighting on smaller, shows there’s not too many people in the crowd, and then you know you work your way up.
You work your way up from from there to the bigger shows and the bigger crowds.
These guys just hop right off the gate um to the to the big shows which, again, you have to slightly give them credit for it, man, because anybody that’s had a boxing match before knows it’s one thing to to to just spar somebody in the gym, even If it’s a good box, it’s one thing to spar in a gym when there’s just a few coaches and a few other boxes around and it’s a whole different ball game.
When you actually get into a real fight – and you turn around, and there is a hunt.
Well, an amateur show might be not thousands of people, but at least a couple of hundred people and they’re screaming out loud and the bright lights are on you and everyone is staring right at you to watch what you’re going to do.
You know mentally.
That’S! That’S a that’s a that’s another thing, so you got to give them them guys credit because remember them, paul brothers, they have had zero amateur experience, zero amateur experience like zero, amateur fights and just hopping right into the pro scene.
That’S that’s! That’S uh! You still got ta give a little bit of credit for that.
Yes, you know when, when they’re on the microphone talking and and uh just talking their [ __ ], they they do what they do to make money, but they they do put in that work.
That’S one thing i could say they when they’re in the gym, because i i you know a little bit of research.
I see the the gyms that that that the paul brothers are trading at.
I see their coaches that they’re working with there’s there’s sparring partners and they actually are putting in work.
That’S the crazy thing that you know that the way they talk on a microphone and when they’re just inside the gym, it’s like two different people.
So i get.
I guess people get confused by that.
Sometimes um yeah yeah yeah.
You do take your head off to his promotional skills.
Exactly that’s what i’m saying man these guys are great promoters.
You know they’re great promoters when i i know pete someone’s a great uh promoter when again, like i said before, people that i know don’t watch boxing will text me or dm me and ask me about them.
So yeah they’re they’re doing their good good job of getting their their name out there and uh yeah.
So there you have it and once again now i’m going to close it out for real this time.
All right i’ll see you guys next week, um hit me up on any social media at cedric sports and at talk and fight youtube channel, all right man, peace,
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