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EPISODE: Episode 1
Join us for this enlightening episode of The Sugar Show, hosted by the ever charismatic Natalie Sugar Brown. In this episode, we dive deep into the recent controversy surrounding Hannah Gabriel’s use of a banned substance in her second bout against Clarissa Shields.
If you’re a fan of boxing, you can’t afford to miss Natalie’s insightful analysis and open discussion about the integrity of the sport, the implications for Hannah Gabriel’s career, and the potential impact on Clarissa Shields’ legacy.
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Engineers, [ Music, ], hey y’all, hey, so what’s up? Yes, guess what it’s Thursday y’all um, when when it’s day was, it was really tough for sure, but I’m on tonight and I’m hoping I mean, there’s a one-off and I’m hoping that uh, I’m hoping that some of y’all hop on with me.
I know I didn’t give every anybody like.
I noticed I had a time about.
You know that I was going to show up on the Thursday, but here we go here.
We go so I’m Natalie around okay, uh woman, pugilist, okay.
That means I’m a woman boxer.
Well, I think I’ve been still in the game because they come with that right.
Contract they’ll take it, but yes, all right, and so this is my platform to talk about women’s boxing with you guys.
Okay, I’ve been there and I’ve done it.
Okay, uh – and this is just me, giving back talking about the life of a female pugilist of a woman pugilist.
What the world is, what the game is, what the real game is how to read between the lines on these news.
I you know on the news and these so-called facts that are out here about women’s boxing.
Okay and, like I always say for those who are new, you don’t have to know right.
You can always ask – and I love that you I love when you ask okay, but if you do know, drop drop.
Some of that drop, some of them gems.
In the comments right, chime in anytime, anytime, not a nod, not a judgmental place, but I will stick it to you.
I I will say I ain’t gon na game, you, but I’m gon na.
Stick it to you.
If you know it, if necessary or or and and people have stuck it to sugar right, so you know it’s fair game on here.
I ain’t scared of nobody, scared of me um.
So yes, um Mike Mike, comes in talking about hey sugar, hey Mike, hey Mike, hey, and I want to also tonight give shout out uh.
I want to give a shout out to little uh his name um little, a okay, I’m gon na call him little a Keeper’s privacy, but he one of my producers tonight and he young in the game and he doing it and he cute cute.
In doing it too, and so I want to give him a shout out, um helping with the show tonight.
Thank you babe so Mike is Mike is on and um little a is on and um.
Hopefully, other people hop on too, but yeah Matt uh Mike I’ll start off the chat tonight.
That’S good uh, the chat tonight’s about Carissa Shields right versus the double back back right.
So that’s what I meant the double back back: the double back, meaning now she she went and tried this.
She went and doubled back on uh uh, a blemish that she has on her self-proclaimed guatness wotus voted quoting this okay.
Where um, she, you know she got dropped.
My Michael Oher comes in definitely shout out to the new Young producers right because we love, we love young young skin in the game, young blood in the game.
We love that when they’re interested, we love when they make a use of their smarts and their knowledge, and I just love the fact that this little young y’all should seem to eat boy.
I tell you but mess around mess around sugar Kelly.
I’M sorry! I’M sorry! It ain’t gon na be that, but I’m telling you he is just um he’s just adorable um yeah yeah.
You know it’s just adorable that he’s he’s in the game and he’s doing it.
The way he’s doing it right.
Oh, are you gon na reveal yourself.
I called you little a with the throw the public off and Evan comes in talking about thanks sugar, all right, Evan, so y’all know it now all right, my little second in command his name Evan, and he doing it sometimes he’s going to be doing it.
Uh on the show with shook, along with Mike and my other guys on at talk and fight, okay, so uh.
That, too, is what I love about.
Um talking fight right, um, talking fight is a platform, is a channel that encourages the youth, the the the youngins to come in and participate and give what they can and what they know to the game as we elevated and evolve it uh to where it can Now reach you guys the way it should right so um, I I I love my folks.
I love.
I love my guys here talking fight and um, so we want to talk about this um.
This Shields fight coming up this this weekend because listen, I had to talk about it and I had to I had to double back.
I had to bring it back.
Okay, I had to bring it back because Sugar’s, the only one Sugar’s, the only one that got the nerve to talk about this thing, to talk about this thing of steroids and performance enhancement in women’s boxing right.
I I you know, I I kind of scoped the playing field and everybody wants to be friends and don’t nobody want to say nothing about nobody else and you know because they want the friendships and the politics to keep going.
But I’m telling y’all this okay Sugar’s doing it, because it’s this thing is bigger than a friendship right, because a friendship over somebody’s life is questionable right, life is divine, life is something that we can’t buy.
Nor sell nor we and and to make a life is a miracle okay.
So when you have somebody doing unethical things, especially in the game that we are in that in the game right, it’s it’s a a sport right, the last of the gladiatorship, where we’re going in there to butcher another human being to assault another human being, and you Now, instead of doing the hard work now you take in drugs to do this, Homie don’t play that and homie won’t play that right and I’m going to be the one to speak on it.
I ain’t got to be.
I ain’t got to be your friend.
I have to make no friends I’m done and when sugar was in it, maybe that’s why you know.
Maybe that’s how why you know things went their way.
They they did.
You know, but I regret nothing um.
So yeah we talking about the double backpack lovely assistant.
Let’S, let’s start off with the site, because I don’t know how long the show gon na be um and whoever it is that want to speak about it and speak on it.
You can you can even I mean be anonymous.
I you know this is, but these are some.
This is.
This must be said so Hannah Gabrielle’s.
It was Clarissa Shield versus Hannah Gabriel’s, as you guys can see, sexy record huh 21 two and one oh right and um goodness uh one of those defeats were was by um Clarissa um.
I got my notes here because I wanted to um she’s had some gifts? Uh Hannah Gabrielle’s because, like I said um there was a girl named Melissa, India that whacked that ass um, when she was first starting but uh that girl she flew down into the lionesses den, which is, I think, um Hannah Gabriel’s, is from Costa Rica.
Is it Costa Rica yeah, so she flew she had she had flew down? Did there she flew down there and um? You know took, took the challenge and I’m telling you one of one of women’s boxing notable fights, and it was a great scrap great.
You heard me: okay, y’all, look it up.
I I’m hoping it’s still online right, so her name is Melissa.
India, Perez, okay, gay helped herself to that ass to Hannah Gabriel right.
So that’s how I got um.
You know I I was supposed to or in my career I was supposed to had faced off with Hannah Gabrielle’s um at a certain point and it it just never manifested um because uh I I am a Caribbean.
At the end of the day, I am the Caribbean gal.
I am the Caribbean broad.
I was representing the Caribbean, okay, so any bad bit.
That thought she you know was bad.
I was.
I wanted to fight her out of the Caribbean, so Costa Rica, okay, um.
My people, I was uh over there in Virgin Islands, so they were like okay, they put hand on the cat and on the table I said cool but Hannah’s people damn said that they would only fight me if I flew down the Costa Rica and at the Time Hannah Gabriel’s wasn’t nobody for me to fly down to Costa Rica, dariska L with you know, like um.
You know I missed too bad at the time.
Um, I’m toting an elite, uh amateur record.
You know amateur Legacy and to fly down to this Broad neighborhood to fight her was just not.
It was just not me so um that went on.
You know that went on past uh.
She ended up fighting uh notable names like uh, the Yvonne Reyes um her, and I have a uh, an opponent in common, which is Rachel Clark.
I um she got a draw with Rachel Clark.
Rachel Clark was my second loss.
The reason why um Rachel Clark, I would um if the fight is there, I hurt Rachel in the fight.
I don’t know I I don’t understand how you could hurt somebody in the fight and have them staggering and still be the loser in the in the fight right.
But I was you know, I believe it was Jersey.
We fought in and uh Rachel’s guy, Rachel’s management or manager bought her spot on the card, and this was before I got hip to the shenanigans where Rachel was a side you know and they they, because I would fight anybody at the time.
Especially.
I was Rachel Clark was me coming out of hiatus.
I you know played right into their hands, so it is what it is.
I don’t have footage on the fight, I’m hoping it pops up, but yeah and Rachel Clark’s, a big broad one.
You know like I, you know I was I yeah.
I give uh miss too bad.
A pat on the back, because she was Fearless Rachel Clark was probably about is probably about five.
Eleven um and big she’s supposed to be uh.
She sucked down to something like 145 um and I’m and I went up to fight her at 145, but Rachel Clark is uh.
She is fought as high as 175 comfortably so yeah.
It is what it is, but you know I wasn’t.
I wasn’t the protected fighter, which is what I talk about a lot um out here, whereas a lot of the records that you see in a lot of the setups that you see where oh she won, and all this, and all that not in women’s boxing right.
It’S it.
We we get cut, some really really raw deals.
Okay, and so I could speak on.
It ends away um she fought Hannah Gabrielle’s fought, Melissa, India, Perez and uh the first time.
Um they stopped it.
I think they stopped it prematurely and then the second time I didn’t see that fight, but it was a TKO as well right, so they stopped Melissa and Dia Perez the first time um they were refs right, um refs are sorry.
I mean I ain’t getting back in there unless the Price Is Right, where um, I will dot all my eyes and cross my teeth, but reps are usually scumbags yeah and I call them I.
You know I’ve had rap.
I’Ve had reps that pull for sugar, but not pool for sugar wear.
Oh, I’m gon na make sure sugar wins but pull for sugar, meaning I I’ma make sure you have a fair fight sugar and that’s all that’s all we ever want in reps right, but refs now are paid off to also beat on the opposition right.
So um.
My one of my trainers, Jerome coffee, taught me the art of fighting two people in the ring at the same time, because he’s the one now that had opened my eyes, everyone else was on that fair fight, stuff.
They didn’t re, they didn’t understand the dynamic of being in there and and getting Justice from The Ref right.
So it’s like oh you’re, going to take the Beats you’re going to take the pushes from the rep you’re going you’re going to take the fact that the ref gon na keep this person there and push you back.
So you have to start all over again.
Jerome coffee, uh um, who was a really good fighter, great amateur good Fighter, um, taught me how to deal with those Shenanigans in the ring taught me what to look for uh, because I I used to see I was in there.
I I I’ve ex.
I experienced it happening, but I didn’t know how to articulate it.
I didn’t know what it meant and a lot of Fighters walk away where we’re talking about it, we’re saying what happened, but then it sounds like.
Oh you just complaining.
Oh you being a sore loser.
No, we are literally fighting two people.
At the same time.
Okay, you got the ref that old elbow you in your in you know in in your chest, in your body area lean.
Do all of that stuff watch watch some of these boxing matches now and you’ll see uh how the refs um earn their money right.
So that’s why I say you know a lot of a lot of you know.
These reps are slime balls, but you do your job, you know some of them again.
They It’s Entertainment and everyone wants to have uh.
You know, have a spot under a place under the spotlight.
Trust me even the referees right.
Do you see them? You know they putting on a show too, because they want people to look at them and they want people to um they they want to somehow uh steal the steal, the the the flow and and steal the the entertaining aspect of the crowd.
They want to steal that from the fighters.
Yeah.
Yes, if you know a ref right, because you know not many people like to speak up for themselves in this game right.
It’S it’s very mysterious.
That way.
People talk a lot of [ __ ].
In the background right, but when it’s time to get on a platform to get on a box and speak their M.
I.
A, oh I got stuff to do.
Oh, oh yeah! That’S how that works! That’S why sugar don’t really have guests right, because I know how the game is um in the way.
Back back to this uh Hannah Gabrielle’s she’s fought a great contender in uh aksandia Castillo.
Like I said this oksandia Castillo was that gal.
Just like how I I’m uh excited.
I was excited about uh uh Cameron that just won the Undisputed Junior middleweight.
I mean Junior uh, Welterweight Title or super lightweight title at 140.
before she got that Chantelle Cameron.
I said now: that’s that’s abroad.
That’S a broad! Coming in that’s a bad one! Coming in and now look at her and uh she she handedly she.
She handedly has that place right.
She she is deserving of that spot.
Now, when I tell you about oxandria Castillo at middleweight to even super middleweight, I’m just letting y’all know this.
One was a contender.
She had just meant she was not a protected fighter.
She had many a raw deal and the industry turned her into an opponent which is very unfortunate.
Um, which you know makes the world makes the the the pond yeah makes the pond shallow for women boxers, because now you know it’s it’s getting to where it’s turning into a soap opera right, real contenders, don’t get a chance um, so yeah I mean she she’s Got some pretty name uh? She she’s got some pretty named names on her list right, so her people them in Costa Rica, we’re doing a pretty decent job of building this one um.
She was there.
She was their gal over there um.
You know just sponsorship.
She had that she she had that money behind her, but don’t like ugly, whether you believe in God or not the universe, don’t like ugly, so um just know karma is a [ __ ] uh, like you know like like the rest of us, can be so Now Hannah Gabriel’s gets this opportunity to fight Clarissa Shields the first time and when she fought Clarissa Shields out, Hannah Gabrielle’s was rallying at middleweight middleweight to Super middleweight around that time.
Um body nice, you know always marketed herself as a Miss Fitness right, uh, lovely assistant.
Do you have any more images just to show by any chance by any chance right so yeah these two um? You know I have Clarissa there, she’s um, you know she’s there great.
You know feeling good that you know she hasn’t Hannah Gabrielle as this now legitimate Contender that she’s gon na be fighting and Hannah.
Gabriel is just all smiles, because she’s saying I’m gon na make some money finding this broad right, and I think she truly should believe that she could probably upstage uh T-Rex Clarissa Shields um.
So this fight happened and in the fight I would say, Hannah made a.
I mean she gave it a good college, go and managed to put the guat T-Rex Clarissa shields on her ass.
So I mean that was a good one like that’s now.
This is fight.
This is the fight world right, so you may you know you may be getting me good or whatever, but I got that shot or I dropped you right.
That’S that’s in a sense like that.
That’S kind of somebody pulling your number.
I got that off.
You right, lovely assistant: is there another image that we can share so there you go right now, look in this image now you know um at this at these weights, especially in women’s boxing, we’re getting on the scale when you get up to uh super middleweight on Up you’re, not gon na see a specimen of woman that is chiseled um rock hard body or anything like that, because we’re not we’re not built that way.
The the the best body that I I had ever seen at middleweight was Anne wolf.
She was a solid middleweight and you could see the work on her yeah so and wolf.
You could, you know and whoop was a real one at at middleweight um.
But you know we start getting smooth when, when you know when, when the weights go up because we’re not gaining weight now, with muscle we’re gaining weight, because you know we got to put the we got, ta put the pounds on to to make the scale to Make it right so Hannah Gabriel um drops Clarissa Shields and I think she dropped Clarissa Shields with an uppercut.
I think it was a right, uppercut, okay, the Clarissa came in and you know she does her flurry.
She does her flurries right and Clarissa Shields at the time.
That’S how that’s what she was known for.
Clarissa Shields was known more so for her overwhelming flurries, not power at the time right, so Gabrielle slipped that one up under it and boom boom mouthpiece came out and everything we people we we um slid in you know we were like at the edge of our Seats now what she’s down? Okay, fight’s interesting right.
So that happened, and so the talk after that, even though it went on Carissa Carissa, got up, got herself straight and finished the fight right and she wasn’t taking no chance that she wasn’t taking no more chances with Gabrielle’s, because now she knew that she could sting Her yeah so from that fight, you know it was a l for Gabrielle, but Gabriel went away with that.
L had a little bit of um.
You know I had something had some weight to it, because now she could.
She could still talk that talk.
She could still sell herself and say I am the only bad man female fighter out here that has put this guat on her ass, hello.
That’S me Hannah Gabrielle’s and guess what I’ll do it again? Which brings us to this recent match where you know um this recent match, where now Clarissa Shields, says she’s going to get her drop back.
That’S why it’s the double back back right! I know y’all be like you know this, this, this broad sugar, this Crone.
She she has so much.
She always has some weird names for her episode, but I mean I that’s how I talk you guys, so you know um, that’s that double back right.
You can double back back yeah.
She had to get it back.
She had to double back and get her drop back right.
So in this time Clarissa Shields feels like she’s, not now a mature fighter, a mature woman in the ring.
Now she feels more powerful.
She wants to give him uh Hannah another uh.
She wan na ride with Hannah again right, but she now has something else on her mind.
She now has the intent to put Hannah Gabriel’s on the mat, um, lovely assistant, uh, any other image right so yeah.
This is the flurry and, as you can see, I mean Hannah Gabrielle’s standing in there strong, like Clarissa Shields, just because Clarissa Juan doesn’t mean she ain’t feel them hands.
And that’s why I have to say about a lot of these women boxers out here.
Just because a fight was won, does not mean there was not Damage Done and that’s the thing I mean with women’s boxing.
We won’t we, the the the commentators, aren’t very good.
They don’t really sell what’s going on in there, because they have no clue what what y’all need to do out here in in in fight world is y’all need to hire some female Fighters or some women who know what the terrain is right and not not.
These stumble bums that can’t even speak up for themselves and sell a fight talk to the women boxers former boxers, the women in boxing out here that know how to sell it.
Okay, and if you talk in the talk, if you ask anybody out here in the game, sugar knows how to sell a fight, I’ll sell a fight right, and this is not.
This is not me trying to get a job y’all.
This is me doing Justice to the industry that has made me who I am unapologetically right and in doing that in speaking about these encounters, we must have women who acknowledge these women in the ring other women who are unapologetically Behaving Badly right, because we got to Know we know, I know what that Moxie is.
I know how it feels right.
I know what it means to have the nerve to think that you’re bad enough to fight in front of thousands of people right, win or lose.
It takes a lot to do that and the people who talk about that need to have that understanding of uh what this means the feels of it, the connection between you and your opponent, you and that other broad, that it’s it’s gon na go down with that.
Y’All going to behave badly together right and the audience of people, that’s around that shows up to watch.
Okay, there’s is there’s just uh, there’s just a a so many layers of a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful naughtiness in that.
But when you have you know when you, when you have some um crumb bumps talking about it, the enjoyment is not there.
We can’t we can have no fun with it right.
So look at this picture.
This picture speaks a thousand words right, so you’ve seen Clarissa.
She took that shot.
Okay, um! You know she when you take a shot like that, it’s not oh, I’m winning or or it’s the the round’s gon na be over.
In this moment, Clarissa Shields understood that [ __ ] ain’t, no joke right.
She didn’t.
She did not bite off more than she can chew, but she probably took a bigger bite than her ass thought.
She could have managed right and you can see in this picture that Hannah Gabrielle may not be as as I technically skilled and as um.
You know performance wise as alluring as Clarissa Shields, but when she put her hands on you, you gon na feel it right.
So you can see it in her legs.
You can see it in her arms she’s.
You know she’s a solid she’s, a solid Broad in there she’s abroad at the time and uh Clarissa Shields.
You can see her body’s not as developed as Hannah Gabriel right, but at this time nobody was thinking what a lot of us in women’s boxing was knowing right, which is they don’t check for performance enhancement, drugs, um, 98 of the time now there was a fighter That I was familiar with coming up, her name was uh is Trisha Hill and I forgot who she went over.
She went over to Germany to fight, and everybody knows at that time this.
This was in the 90s yeah.
This was in the because she was Pro.
She didn’t do amateur, I was when I was amateur.
She was Pro she went over to Germany, and that was just you went over to German.
This was when Germany was was doing.
What what a lot of what the UK is doing now, which is they were buying up all the belts? Okay, but the thing about it is those those broads in Germany they they could fight a little bit.
They could.
I forgot who uh uh Trisha hillfoot? I don’t know if it was Esther Snowden or something like that, but Trisha went over there and not only did she beat this Broad, but she broke her face yeah right like it’s one thing to get beat the other thing she Trisha Hill broke this bra.
I got ta, look it up matter of fact.
Let me let me do my some calculations right now.
Let me look up Trisha Hill, while we on the Spot, while we talking right, Trisha Hill, because y’all got to yes, it’s a little bit.
Um quiet y’all bear with me y’all look up Trisha, I’m seeing her right now.
This is what really helped me get the understanding and got me hip early in the game about this, but um so Trisha Hill and I don’t have the picture Trisha Hill.
This is like an impromptu like I’m.
Just bringing this story to light.
Trisha Hill ended her career.
Six wins five losses: okay, but this one right here I used to give her rounds and give her some Safari.
She was a smaller broad at the time um out of the South out of the dirty okay, um fought featherweight and she went over um and fought.
He says: yeah um, not Esther, but yeah; silk, Wegman, uh, wickenmeyer yeah at Super bam.
So she went down.
Okay, silk, weckenmeyer and silk was uh.
Silk you know was a hot girl at the time you look up these these names and you’ll see the pictures.
Okay, um, I’m going back, I’m taking a back back right um.
These are names of of women boxers who fought back in the day, names that should be mentioned.
Trisha and silk right, um, so Trisha Hill went over and Trisha Hill also fought um Kelsey Jeffries, who I think is going to be on Brook D, show um.
One of these Tuesdays so y’all check it out right, um, but she broke she.
She beat silk.
Who was a up-and-coming German girl? They were paying for her to get this the belt and everything Tricia Trisha I mean I spoke to Trisha before she went over to Germany as an amateur.
I said you know, I mean you know, that’s a solid L.
If you go over there, Trisha Trisha looked at me like she knew something that I didn’t and she she for damn sure did know something that I didn’t so she went over to Germany and, like I said she beat that broad up, and not only did she Beat the broad she broke her face? Yes, so it was in the news over there and came back over here that Trisha Hill did damage like not only beat the girl, but did some like bodily damage to her.
So Germany was like huh, no, no, no! No! No right we paid for this, we we paid for all of this.
You ain’t Finn.
No, no, you! We, we got ta, see what’s going on, we, if, if it’s the bottom, we got to get to it.
So, let’s get to the bottom of this okay.
They had Trish, take the pee test or take that test and sure enough.
It came back um that Trish um Tris failed a doping test, okay and the title because it was for the wibf World featherweight title.
The title was given back to Silk: yeah, listen! Stranger! Things have happened over there in Germany, like how um what you call it like how uh and Sophie Mathis um knocked knocked out um.
What’S her name that fought Christina Hammer knocked her out, not Christina hammer out and Christina Hammer still won the fight yeah.
That happened over there in Germany, so yeah.
That’S why and and then after a while, when we saw stuff like that happening, the power of women’s boxing is no you’re not going to do that to us.
So guess what we just won’t fight over there, no mo so that cut their water right.
We cut their water.
So nobody was going over to Germany to do nothing right because at the end of the day, When a Woman’s Fed Up we’ll make sure you feel it so they get they get.
They haven’t made any more money from women’s boxing for a very long time, um.
So yeah, I said that to say this um.
That was the last time I heard of any testing actually happening.
I thought um a fighters who you know or I’ve I’ve been in the ringing fighters, who I know we’re on uh performance enhancement, drugs, okay, um in the amateurs to in the amateurs too, because all they do is all they used to do is take your PE.
For the pregnancy, because nobody wants to be liable for nobody losing their baby in there from the trauma right, nobody wants to be, and I’m not even going live.
The the um the pregnancy test is Come See.
Come Saw depending on where the commission is that you’re.
Finding right, because if you’re I’ve seen it I’ve seen it where the hometown girls stick tests, come back positive yeah, you got two lines right, you got, the stork is coming and they still let her fight pregnant yeah.
So nobody was testing there hasn’t been.
The testing has not been stringent with women’s boxing um in mailboxing, and I’m sure women’s boxing wear the blood test, the HIV, the hepatitis test.
Don’T get.
You know that you can get.
You can get a fake test over and no one’s following up right.
I’Ve seen it right, so you you know you um you standing in front of somebody in the ring and their eyes yellow, like Homer, Homer Simpson.
You know they got to help, but what you gon na do back out of the fight.
That’S what these things I mean this is.
This is how scary it gets in boxing, especially women’s boxing, because there were no eyes being dotted Ortiz being crossed.
Now it seems the as though, if you have protection, because not every female fighter very few, Maybe I would say I’ll, give it 10.
Maybe 10 of female Fighters now are protected where they have enough power behind them to have certain things like they have enough power behind them to make sure the tests are validated, they have enough power behind them to make to to possibly get um.
You know the the waiting the weigh-ins to happen properly.
You know little things like that, but the big deal is we’re nobody testing for Peds or performance enhancement drugs.
That’S I mean nobody was paying attention to women’s boxing for that to matter, so you could I’m sure many of us have fought abroad.
That’S on the juice, it is what it is right and you can tell, and I’ve said it.
I’Ve said it in previous shows.
Just to show you guys should sugar, I’m telling you the truth, the unadultered truth about this game.
Right, ain’t! No friends! I understand this thing.
It ain’t about me, making friends, it’s about me being loyal to the truth.
Um.
You know that you can tell.
I can tell when a body went abroad has worked for that body.
Where I say you can see the work on her and went abroad.
It it got that juice body you could tell um.
So I ain’t gon na say homegirl was on the juice in this picture, but now the proof, the proof is there lovely assistant.
Let’S see the next slide, I mean so look at her okay.
This seems this was an up-to-date um.
This is an up-to-date weigh-in picture.
I think I might not have been no because she didn’t get to weigh in so this is one of her weigh-in pictures.
Okay, now the thing about um roid’s with us women see my my guys told me yes, so this this this picture is a few years old.
So this was from the first fight right and you see she cut she’s.
Looking you know she, the jawline looking slim and all that [ Music ] um, so who you know the thing about um the thing about this game right is: there are many men in the game that know how to do this? Roid [ __ ] know how to do these ped [ __ ], because maybe they did it when they were um in boxing or they were bodybuilders or whatever it is, so they know how to they know when to load.
They know how to and when to flush the [ __ ] out the system.
Okay, the thing about it is it’s harder for women to flush it out of our systems, because we carry more fat than men and the the the remnants of the steroids uh stays in our fat.
Okay, just like you can tell if abroad has been pregnant um within a past year.
You could tell why, because we carry a lot, we carry as women.
We carry our hormones in our fat, so um take, for instance.
After and I can speak personally after I had my my child, I had so much fat on me that I had to fight to get the weight off because as long as those pregnancy hormones were in my fat tissue, my body believed that I was still pregnant.
So I would still be feeling like I had to eat for two.
I would still be having the lethargy I would still be having some of the you know, I would still be having the um symptoms of pregnancy, because of that a lot of y’all.
Don’T know this so this it’s a science of being, it’s there’s a science to being a female and or to being a woman.
And I understand it because I had to get to know myself, um and my anatomy and all of that stuff to become a fighter, because what is it I had to know myself know thyself right.
If you don’t know yourself, you cannot defeat anybody else right.
If you don’t know yourself, you cannot step in front of anybody and call yourself trying to defeat them.
Okay, now um there are different types of these steroids uh.
It look, it seems, like I mean, there’s, there’s a steroid that helps you know the the body.
The muscles to metabolize and lean out – and I’m not listen.
This is in you know the fitness industry too, and I know a lot of broads a lot of gals out there that they don’t fight, but they do Fitness and they pop these.
These um Peds like Tic Tacs, right because they in in their industry or in their in their business.
They have to use these things to sculpt themselves and to train to get themselves in looking like they’re in a certain type of shape and they have to perform and I’ll tell you this nobody trains harder than a fighter.
I said it, I said it argue with your Mammy right.
Don’T argue with me about that as a fighter and I’ve, you will look look through all of our pictures.
Okay, look at me when I I’ve been on the scale.
Look at me.
Look at Sugar’s pictures.
Look at these other um broads pictures that you see cut out here.
Okay, it’s hard work, it’s hard work! So when I used to get on this scale, I didn’t care I get on there naked.
You want to know why, because I worked for this, mine is a modesty um, and you know I just got used to it: the first Women’s World Champ the the Women’s World Championships when we were the the second Women’s World Championships um.
When we went over to Turkey, we all expected that we were going to get on the scale with bathing suits on and shorts and all of that stuff we were over there.
They told us nope it you getting on naked right.
If, if you coochie bald, if you’re coochie got got a little fur, that’s just going to be on you right, but you you’re getting on there naked right.
So we were like what what you know.
I was still a teenager and I just I was like there are men.
We were upset Teen, USA.
We were pissed because there were men in there and they were still looking.
They were looking at us like um get naked and we were like, but there are men in here, so what we did, what Team USA did were we took turns? That’S why you know I I can’t you know, there’s a there’s just uh.
We may not all have gotten along right on the team and everything but they’re there was a standard of dignity that all of us knew that we deserved.
So we took off our jackets and when one of our teammates was to get on the scale naked, it would be like three.
No, it would be four of us where one would have her jacket in the front of the one, that’s on the scale and then the uh two would have their jackets up.
That’S standing on both sides and then one in the back.
So it was like we’re standing in front of her to make sure that she knows she has her little space of privacy and she was still on the the scale naked right.
So we had each other’s back that way and it it it that made me that was empowering.
You know um.
It was empowering where I, because at the time I’m sure it doesn’t happen now you know, but at the time we we were still being treated like second-class citizens in in boxing, even though we had that big opportunity, they were like yeah.
You want to fight okay.
Well, this is what you got to go through and we did it.
We found a way to do it.
You know we found a way to make it work for for all of us and and we found a way to keep the respect for each other and and the dignity for us women.
Oh, you know a woman’s dignity right, I’m not going to show you my cookies, unless I want you to see them anyway, um getting back to to what I was.
What I’m talking about so they’re.
You know in the fitness interest industry in this sport industry.
There are different types of steroids, right, um, and so you can never tell, but a lot of it is now to um.
Steroids is to build more testosterone in the body.
So the and you know the thing about testosterone.
Testosterone is a hormone that that’s the that’s.
The hormone that makes that builds muscle, that’s the hormone that um gives you that Fighter’s Instinct.
That’S that’s! That testosterone is.
That is the thing that make the Hulk green and She-Hulk green.
You know what I’m saying is that ah, and you can see it right and as the thing about that hormone is it builds more and more and more the more you work, the more you put in the more you get the flying.
The ointment is that [ __ ] hurts it hurts the work, hurts the work.
Dear Lord, the work hurts I’m talking about slavery.
Yes, yes, and so the thing about this, the more you work you sleep in in the body, naturally, because the the body is a wonderful, the most amazing thing Creation in this universe, the human body, okay, is when you recover the hormone comes and patches up, the Muscle puts glycogen back, you know so you’re you’re literally, you know re like you’re you’re you’re like Wolverine.
Like I’m a Marvel, I’m a comic book gal, broad, so you’re, you know your your your body is rejuvenating and the testosterone had um plays a big part in that.
So um a lot of athletes, don’t have the heart, and I’m saying it to feel that to go through that pain um to to build the testosterone and to build their bodies, the way it should be, and so, if you could take it in a pill, if It come in a pill or if it come in a liquid, that you could just squirt in your mouth or or shoot up in they’re gon na.
Do it right, it’s a it’s a mental thing.
I suppose right for me, I’m from people um, my ancestors, my peoples.
In My DNA, we hard work people we hard work, people uh, we people that don’t expect to I I would never.
I would never expect to win if I didn’t work hard right and when I lose just know that month, that if that person indeed beat me solid, they deserve it because they worked hard for it.
Somebody chiming in R scarf one Hey baby.
Let’S see what you got to say tonight, so it’s saying boxers that take the risk to fight in Germany know they likely need a knockout to win.
The anti-doping test could be waived, so there may be no proof of enhanced performance right and so – and you see you just following up on what I was saying and vice versa right, because those Germans could have been taking those banned substances too right.
But what you’re going to do you’re going to make them take the test in Germany? No, no they’re not going to do that right.
But what happened was Trisha Hill double backed back on they ass and she said you, you might be juicing, guess what I’m a juice too and she went broke that poor broad’s face and yes, they made her put them.
She they made her put give them that sample and sure enough um, Trisha Hill was riding dirty out here.
So I mean it is what it is: Trisha Hill, unfortunately, Trisha Hill had great potential good fighter.
I gave her round she.
She was strong for you for a small broad.
I don’t um.
She may have been on the on the juice when, when I was giving her rounds but skills pay the bills right um, our scarf once says they probably tampered with Hill’s urine test.
It probably, but I want you to look at um, Miss Hill’s, uh pictures back in those times, um women Fighters wasn’t built like how Tricia was building and I knew Trisha when she was a small.
You know kind of lanky Broad and then she all of a sudden she started getting that that weight on her.
So I mean probably right but um.
If the test came back, the test came back dirty right.
Something had to be a catalyst for them to to have a leg to stand on, because you can, I will sue y’all ass and she would have had um.
She would have had grounds for a lawsuit if they indeed tampered with her pee test and she could prove it right.
Um and Trish Trisha Hill.
She had money behind her.
She had a little bit of money behind her uh.
Our scarf once says.
Also, the test results of her opponent were not publicly revealed.
That’S what I’m saying, because where she was, it was our scarf one.
She was in Germany so, like I said you, she flew.
She flew into the den so what’s good for the goose they weren’t going, but the gander was going to get was was going to get what the goose wasn’t going to give yeah.
I’M talking like that, um old southern, it’s, the old southern people.
In my in my in my in my skin and blood right, so you heard what I said right: what’s good, they say: what’s good, for the goose is good for the gander right, but what they wanted for the gander.
The goose wasn’t going to give okay so yeah they, the um Trisha Trisha’s opponent, is silk.
Silk may have been dirt riding dirty out here too, but back in the day.
That’S what you were! That’S what you knew you were gon na face, especially as a as a woman boxer flying over there to behave badly, but that’s what they did right, that’s what we did and they hurt a lot of us going over there too.
They sent a lot of us back here.
They sent, we flew over there for the for the sake of women’s boxing, and they they sent us back here, hurt right, so you know and that’s why we cut they [ __ ] ass water over there in Germany.
We stopped going over there just like I’m, I’m telling you all to stop going to Quebec yeah.
I said it right if they’re not trying to make sure that people have a safe, fair fight, we don’t need to be fighting there.
Um our scarf one says Elena.
Tyson had her anti-doping test waived for at least one of her title fights you see, that’s why I love my Misfits chiming in and it seemed like.
You knew our our scarf one, but I I like that you’re chiming in I’m not paying anybody.
These are people who are.
These are people who are fans of women boxing who care about women’s boxing who care enough to know the stories or try to find the truth about the story, so our scarf one.
Thank you.
Our scarf once says.
Universim is not in business anymore, so there’s not enough money to entice boxers to fight there.
I wonder why universim is not in business anymore.
It was too, it was too much shenanigans it would you can’t be a promoter and have Fighters come over right and and have solid Fighters come over if you’re not trying, if you’re not playing fair or if there is not even uh uh? If there’s not even a Fighter’s chance, because that’s what we that’s what we bet on, WE bet on ourselves as Fighters, we got people in our Corners, that’s betting on us just to go over there or just to go to a place and be robbed and be Put in danger and to be hurt right people invest, people are investing time and money in Fighters two.
You know to be doing that stuff.
Our scarf once says there were too many robberies yeah.
You can’t do that, and boxing is a lucrative industry.
Everyone wants to see a fight everyone right, so everyone wants to see a fight because there’s always a Fighting Chance.
We like to cheer for the underdog too, and we like to cheer for the the um hometown right, but let let the fighters decide let the fighters and and all the the the you know, the energies of the the the gods of boxing and goddesses right.
Let the energies of the universe decide the it’s already.
You know the industry is already an industry um of savagery right then, to add the cheating to it to add a referee in there.
That’S going to see to it that someone gets hurt and to and to help help the fighter hurt the two against one in there watch a lot of these women’s boxing fights right.
The referees watch them um our scarf one says we want the judges and referees to be fair and impartial.
We want them to be our scarf one, but realistically that’s not gon na happen right realistically, we know that it’s not going to be fair there.
There is going to be some kind of you know.
There’S there’s going to be some kind of uh weight towards one fighter in the amateurs it was even worse right and especially if you’re fighting overseas um, when, when I’ve, when I went back when I went to the World Championships twice and got beat by Irina, sineeskaya Right, the first one: okay, I give it to Irina, the second one in Turkey I beat Irena, but all the Russians were winning over there when we went over there right.
So it’s like, I don’t know if there’s any way to regulate and with that the ayaba look.
Look what happened to iiba.
Now there was so much um.
There was so much um.
Would you call it [, Music, ], um people being paid off, and and all of that you know the president being involved in you – know these payoffs and all of that stuff? There was so much of it happening that look where they are now right.
I think I think they’re disbanded um the aiba, which was supposed to be like the amateur boxing World platform.
You know what I’m saying so uh you know.
I think we should I I I do agree that you know we want the judges and the referee to be fair and impartial, but for the most part we should give we we should.
We should at least give both Fighters a Fighting Chance.
Okay, let the chips fall where they may that’s.
What makes this thing interesting and that’s what makes it money, because if it’s a good fight, it’ll be a good rematch and there’s? Oh there’s good money, because if, if if I came, if I seen the first fight that I paid for – and I know they fought good the first time uh – you got my money for the second one.
That’S what a lot of them don’t see right, especially with women’s boxing rematches, are what are or what the thing is.
That’S what’s going on! That’S what the good thing about women’s boxing is right, because we’re so emotional and what we need a story to sell our fights right so having a rematch with abroad that you had a good fight with, will still sell trust me so um going back to you Know the the different steroids so there’s different steroids and um Hannah Gabrielle’s.
She she got caught right and – and this is the thing lovely lovely assistant, can you change the um change change the the image we have another one coming up? I mean you look at her on there: okay, she’s solid Hannah, Gabrielle’s fights she she had the belt.
I think she has the belt at light.
Heavyweight light heavyweight is what 178 178 pounds so she’s up there and she’s a title holder at light heavyweight.
Okay, you see her on there she’s she’s solid, you know she in the gym lifting the weights and stuff.
Okay.
Did she need it? I didn’t, I don’t think she needed, I, I don’t think she needed it, but you know um.
This child wasn’t looking like this.
When she was when she went to fight melissandia, she was just looking like an infant like a in shape, a fit girl.
You could still see the smoothness and she wasn’t as hard, but I mean who’s to say when she picked up on this bad habit that she just got caught for um, so yeah so um.
She Hannah Gabrielle’s rallied from welterweight 147.
right on up to light heavyweight.
178, okay, this! This is what she she was doing out here um, so she got lovely assistant, oh well, no, not yet she her.
She gave her sample all right, um and I gave you guys.
Look at the sugar shows.
Okay, I did um.
I do have an episode about doping.
I do.
I do so check it out.
Okay, so I did have a discussion.
I did have an episode about this dope thing um, because nobody wants to talk about it or wanted to talk about it, but I will right so um.
There’S a agency called the Vada right.
It’S called the voluntary anti-doping agency and that and the Vada works for particular sanctioning bodies.
They are the ones that are in charge of making sure that all of the athletes that are champions or all of the top contenders, who are a part of this program, remain clean or yeah remain clean from banned substances.
So if you’re a part of this right um, they can just randomly show up at your door and demand demand samples from you um, as as an amateur.
We had those things where you they just show up.
Hey up, you could be at the gym.
They could just show up where, wherever you’re known to be and say, hey, I need you to drop this sample and you got to go, give them a sample and whether um you know it.
It came back, clean or dirty was really up to.
You know whether you were playing fair or not right.
I was not.
I used to welcome them right.
I to the point where I was going to be real cheeky and put my sample in the champagne glass, because that’s how clean and Crystal Clean I knew my stuff was and pure okay.
So a lot of us, you know, welcome that, but you know I used to see many fighters that were uh.
You know edgy about it Virginia fush, right, they’re, trying to push her.
She was on Team USA, for I think the the last Olympics and she went and got caught with the dirty test and wait a minute when she turned around.
He went and said y’all.
She went and said that her sample came back 30.
because she was having sex with her boyfriend.
She got contaminated.
She got contaminated by his by his uh button.
A few fluids girl would you say girl would you do went out here.
What now I’ve been to judge nobody for being Behaving Badly? That way, as a matter of fact, it’s fun to behave badly in those ways but girl, you went and swallowed it down, and it came back in your pee and said that you was on the stuff.
You lying you lying it’ll work like that.
You know how many of us out here behaves bad right and it don’t come out it.
It just doesn’t right the sloppy toppy.
Just don’t it don’t come out in in your sample.
That way, just don’t do that.
So Virginia came out with that lame ass.
Excuse, I mean lame.
One thing you know, I thought I thought it was lame because she tried to be edgy with it like yeah yeah.
I got it from my boyfriend, my boyfriend’s on steroids, not me, and I got the and I I my sample came back dirty because I I just didn’t know I didn’t know he was on steroids and I swallowed it.
They gon na put me off the internet.
Y’All say to listen: they gon na put me on the internet because I shouldn’t be talking to y’all about this like this, but I mean this: is I’m not making anything up? I’M not making it up and Virginia ain’t say nothing about it.
Since, oh, we have somebody else coming in devops team sugar slam on something: oh, they they corrected themselves sugar slam.
On doping, I mean I got ta slam it devops team.
Why? Because it’s if it was something where it’s fair game.
Everyone could do it okay, but if you know people are, you know like you should not be doing it and people could get people are dying.
People have died doing this.
Why would you do right? Why, wouldn’t you have the confidence in yourself to just do the hard work, if you can’t do the hard work, then do what you can and and end up where you end up in the ring, if you want to be a fighter, that’s where I’m at with That whole thing right, like I said I was talking – I mentioned this in a previous show – where I was talking to a fellow fighter out here and she was telling me how her management her her um Handler, knew how to make sure they cut weight properly.
I didn’t know like my people, they, my people, didn’t have that knowledge.
I was like wow.
I wish I had that knowledge.
I wish my people had that knowledge where they knew the science of cutting weight.
My people was just like you gon na run and run you gon na work and work until you get that weight that you’re gon na eat.
You gon na eat cantaloupe, watermelon and crackers to get your weight down and that’s what you’re gon na do and you’re going to do what you can when, while you’re doing it to get down like who this is what this is this, is it right, you’re gon Na eat that Jello and that’s all you’re gon na have for months, so you can get this weight down.
Well, that’s not healthy um, and you know I just got.
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