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EPISODE: Episode 4
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Well, this being may, it is certainly beginning a great weekend.
Isn’T it um? We have a lot to talk about this evening.
Uh.
Thank you for joining us on talk and fight.
On the friday night panel, i’ve got christian.
I got mike myself derek’s still on a leave of absence, but uh we’ve got a couple of things to talk about in particular, but regarding uh a bit of history, i think christian’s got something lined up for us.
Oh yeah, we’ve always got a classic fight.
We can take a look at here now.
I missed you guys last week uh.
Unfortunately, i wasn’t able to be here, but you guys will remember the week before that we were talking about rocky graziano and tony zale and the first of their trilogy of fights.
That would go on to be known as the great war.
Okay now, for i’m sure, all you out there in viewer land will remember because you’re all smart, talented, beautiful people that zail won that first fight.
Okay, now that electrifying, first zale graziano clash was of course billed as the fighter for the year of 1946, and no time was wasted in putting together the rematch.
Now that was initially scheduled for march at madison square garden.
You all right there guys [ Laughter.
], am i missing something? Have you ever seen? Have you ever seen kingpin kingpin? Oh my god.
I showed him the clip in kingpin, where the guy gives him three right hooks to the boob, so you guys have got some behind the scenes stuff going on there.
Yeah, sorry, do you need to throw this clip up for uh for the people at home? It’S not appropriate for everyone.
I’M telling you okay, well, you’ll have to send it to me later then, because i don’t think i’ve seen it.
Thankfully i think we will.
We will sorry all right all right, we’ll move back to graziano and sale, though, for the time being, i said so that first fight had been built as the fight of the year for 1946 and they hadn’t wasted any time putting together the rematch.
Now that initially was scheduled for march at madison square garden.
Oh you guys are the worst.
You got ta see this clip you’re gon na you’re gon na you’re you’re gon na have to put the like the clip in the comments or something with a warning.
Yeah people are gon na people are gon na, be wondering now.
I just can’t stop thinking about it.
[, Music, ] mike you broke him.
I did i did you broke him.
It’S literally been three hours since i showed him.
The clamp every time with a straight face goes great fight, i’m thinking myself, wow, there’s! No because mike had intro this clip by saying wait till the 146 minute mark something’s in there you know twiddling my thumbs while there’s arguments ensuing between these two people, one being a girl, the other being a guy.
Can we go have a little chat? Oh god? Okay, um so uh can you can you show this? Yes? Yes, again, it’s less than 30 seconds, it’s a promo! Here it comes.
Oh, we were talking about how women have to wear uh protectors in the ring.
Because of this the best part is hey.
Look, listen! Lady, i’ve done a lot of creepy things in my life.
I’M not gon na lower myself into having a fistful man.
Now, if a number’s taken woody’s a bowler right, yeah he’s a bowling professional, [, Music ].
If you get a fake hand, yeah yeah, he does gets better [ Music ].
He came [ Music, ] you’ve been stuck on this for three hours, yeah yeah, because we were talking about how women women have to wear a protection over their chest when they’re boxing – and i was like – maybe it’s because of this – and then what do you hear? All things [, Music, ], [, Laughter ] with your very serious history.
Now i don’t know if i’d call it that serious, are you guys gon na, be okay yeah, we’re good we’re good? Oh [, __ ], i’m gon na, have to get the producer to just mute.
You guys so all right, we’re good we’re good.
The second.
I start talking.
You two are gon na start laughing again.
Aren’T you no yeah there? It is so for anyone who cares is keeping score here.
We are talking about the rematch now for uh, rocky raziano and uh and zayle.
It was originally supposed to take place in new york, breathe mikey, but at the time new york state’s athletic commission had suspended graziano’s uh athletics license due for to a failure to report a bribe attempt now that charge was later thrown out for lack of evidence.
You guys are just rough today talking about eventually, okay, all right, all right, so either way his charge for not reporting a bribe was late, was later thrown out, so sale versus grazia 2 was rescheduled for july in chicago, instead of new york and tony’s hometown fans.
From nearby gary indiana helped fill out chicago stadium’s, new indoor record uh gate with some nineteen thousand people filling out the stands, and if fans of the man of steel didn’t leave happy that night, they still got more than their money’s worth as dale and graziano.
Once again put on a spectacular, slug fest, this time it was graziano appeared to have too much to overcome, as the first round saw, zayle take charge and land a series of punishing blows through both body and head and by the end of the round.
The challenger’s right eye was swollen to close and closing fast.
The champion only picked up the pace in the second, as he sought to capitalize on the industry on the sra on his injury.
But rocky got home his right hand and the punch stunning sail as the bell went.
Zl went to the wrong corner kind of like what you two would be doing right now, because you don’t have any wherewithal left but round.
Three was all zale.
He inflicted a nasty cut over graziano’s left eye, scored a knock down and pinned rocky to the ropes.
With a fearsome assault at the bell, the challenger’s face was a mask of blood and the referee told rocky that he would stop the fight if he continued taking such punishment.
Now, despite this round, four was you know a lot of the same and that brave connect pace, um zale, looked great by the end of it and graziano was clearly bothered by his wounds and was starting to have trouble with his vision so before round five graziano.
So graziano’s corner took drastic action to restore their man’s sight, breaking the swelling around his right eye and pressing it with a coin.
So perhaps it was the pain of the procedures that awakened something primal and rocky, or maybe it was just the improved eyesight that the uh and so even bit of newfound energy, because the challenger came out of his corner and attacked with abandon in round five.
And indeed his accuracy was much improved as he dramatically uh reversed momentum and found the range for his bombs, bringing loud exclamations from the crowd as he landed one huge punch after another.
Now, to everyone’s astonishment, the fighter who had appeared just finished just minutes earlier was now in charge and inflict and starting to inflict some pretty serious damage.
Zale attempted to rebound at the start of round six, but was fading and rocky knew it.
The challenger kept charging forward and behind his cannon of a right, it was battering tony from one side of the ring to the other three flush right hands send zale down and though he uh climbed back to his feet.
He was almost driven out of the ring by the fury of rocky’s follow-up attack draped over the middle strand of the ropes, with his back turned to graziano.
Zale was defenseless and at that point the ref halted the match at two minutes: 10 in the sixth round.
So this was another shocking and you know thrilling come from behind victory and not to mention another fight of the you know another fight of the year.
But you know this time: it was graziano saving a huge win from the fire fortunate once again smiled on the rock and drew and the new middleweight champion of the world was crowned bleeding and exhausted.
He then under what would become his immortal.
Tagline, hey mom, your bad boy done good.
Somebody up there likes me.
So a third and final sale, graziano clash did take place the following year in newark, new jersey and well it too was you know it was a great bout with zale winning this time by a clean and decisive third round knockout everyone involved agreed that it didn’t Equal, the uh, the intensity and the just the furor of the first two battles for just sheer excitement, however, of the three legendary clashes that would come to be known as the great war in this rivalry.
It was the only one that was actually filmed tragically, we don’t actually have any footage of the first two uh bouts and the second one.
We only have some poor footage that was shot from the stands and omits the end of the fight.
So we kind of have to just rely on written testaments uh from sports writers of the day, who did unanimously hail the first two zale uh graziano battles as among the most action-packed and exciting of all boxing history.
Now that uh that report there that article comes to us from robert portis, congratulations, you guys start breathing about halfway through that again yeah yeah yeah, but i’m glad i’m glad you’re back.
You two are ridiculous: preparia [, Music ]! I tell you, you know um, my uh.
My piece is going to be short and sweet.
I think canelo’s going to win in about the eighth round by a liver, shot, liver, shot right, it’s not going past.
The sixth, i think he’s gon na.
I think something’s gon na come out hard in the beginning first two rounds and then canelo’s gon na find his timing, he’s gon na figure out saunders game and then he’s gon na bring it to him.
Just like we saw in his last about inside.
It’S not going into the deep rounds, it’s gon na be quick yeah.
The only thing is, is they’ve made it a bigger, bigger, bigger ring, uh sauna’s gon na be elusive, he’s also southpaw.
That’S gon na throw off uh alvarez so well.
That was the whole thing, though alvarez wanted an 18-foot ring.
Of course he did.
He wanted this one.
This is the whole point is, and i think to your point.
I think it is going to be ended on body shots from alvarez, because um saunders is going to try to, as you say, stay elusive he’s going to try to use that uh 22 foot ring, as i think what they ended up.
Agreeing to.
In the end.
He’S going to try to use that space and keep and keep alvarez at arm’s length, and i think alvarez is going to get in close and use that jab right to the chest just to just to destabilize him and that’s going to be the end of him.
On body shots, he can’t go the distance if it goes, the distance he’ll go in canelo’s favor, so yeah it’s going to be quick, sandra’s gon na bring it quick honestly on that card as well.
Is the uh the frank sanchez fight? That’S that’s pretty funny.
Um he’s you know what, if frank says wind said: he’s joining the club of contenders hoping to get in position for that vacant, wbo, heavyweight title which actually isn’t vegan, [, Laughter, ] and honestly in order the rankings by wboards.
It goes to usek joyce, parker, pulev, ruiz, jr, faw, then sanchez and let’s be real, joyce parker pool evan ruiz and would be quite a group to jump over so right.
You know, i think i think sanchez is going to take this one pretty easily.
I i think so as well, i think so as well and then he’s going to join that long list of people waiting for that belt.
That’S not actually vacant.
So yes, yet again, another heavyweight, that’s gon na prove himself to you know, be able to be a contender, and you know fight for the belt, but he’s gon na wait in line and he’s seven.
So what’s really gon na happen, this is what sucks.
But if you watch the uh one today mark castro, two no two knockouts i’ve talked about him in the past.
He’S gon na be a guy to watch on that card as well should be a great fight, uh.
There’S a couple of belts on that card, going as well other than the uh sanchez fight there.
You’Ve also got uh conway versus uh sisoko and that’s the super welter.
Yes, the super.
Yes, yes, yes, that’s going to be an interesting match.
Actually, i’m pretty.
You know what those guys man, those little dudes, they know what they’re doing it’s going to be an excellent fight honestly, this card geared up to be to be awesome actually – and it’s really the only oh yeah who directed that movie, whose movie is that whoever thought Of that, i’m glad to see you guys are raising the level of discourse around here.
I love the kids inspired with that short right uppercut through the boob and then he follows me with a couple i mean i mean hey out of curiosity who’s.
The actress i you know what i don’t even know.
I don’t even know who i know well, you can set the producers into looking into looking that one up speaking of speaking of clowns, though speaking of clowns, uh vanessa angel.
There you go there, you go speaking of clowns, uh jake, paul yo.
He spoke, he stole mayweather’s hat yeah.
That’S why i said speaking of clowns.
Yes, and he just got a tattooed on himself and it’s all over instagram, i’m pretty sure i sent it to you guys check it out.
It’S really really funny it’s.
He got a tattoo.
He got what tattooed on himself.
Oh he’s black.
He means black.
He got tattooed got your hat, really he’s a clown.
Honestly, mayweather should just not take mayweather, should ages not take this fight at all, and then everyone else in boxing should just tell this kid that he’s a clown and that he’s the thing he’s not fighting jake paul he’s fighting logan.
Yes, he’s fighting logan paul his brother he’s not fighting jake, paul yeah.
Okay, i did see another article saying that logan paul is furious, that jake paul stole uh and i just could not be bothered to read it because it started with the words logan.
Paul is furious.
Well, i’m pretty sure i saw the the pose that said.
Uh jake paul has a black guy and a couple of loose teeth right now: yeah yeah he he he got a few shots.
Mayweather dropped him apparently yeah.
So we’ll we’ll see what happens, but it’s kind of funny, though he went out, got a tattooed on him.
Gotcha hat it’s it’s it’s kind of humorous.
You know what he’s he’s, bringing that he’s: bringing that uh, that publicity, whether it’s good or bad, he’s still bringing people he’s still.
You know, he’s still getting people ready for whatever the hell he’s gon na dish out or whatever his brother’s gon na dish out.
We all know, is he gon na fight a circus clown next or uh? You know what maybe maybe maybe he’ll fight his way out of a paper bag and into a real career fight a bear yeah.
You know i mean he’s not gon na fight a boxer.
You know what i’d like to see him fight mike tyson.
I would too, but i’d like to see him fight, not hard spar.
Listen mike tyson would beat him if he was a quadriplegic and had to blow his wheelchair with his mouth to the ring there.
You go oh here we go got your hat like what a ridiculous thing.
It’S it’s funny! Uh! We don’t have that many plates to watch this weekend.
Uh there is a miamo 2 card.
That’S uh! That’S going to be excellent! To watch yeah she’s fighting she’s, fighting michaela mckayla jenkins, i believe it is um uh, yes, michaela jenkins.
Also on that card is uh.
Jerome pampaloni.
I’Ve talked about this guy before he’s a light heavyweight he’s.
Six and oh he’s fighting uh, joshua tai who’s, five, twelve and oh so, we’ll see what’s going on with there.
It should be great.
It’S gon na be a good card me and mo she should easily come through with a victory here, we’ll get behind her.
Definitely we’ll get her in here, actually probably next week for female friday and we’ll talk to her about her uh, her impressive win, which i’m predicting so did you get a chance on mikey to watch today’s fight uh? No, i haven’t heavily under the liam smith.
I did catch the end of that uh and how it went to point and how kerbanov won it yeah.
It was uh.
You know what in the last couple of rounds, i seen it, they did bring it to each other pretty well.
It was a weird kind of role, reversal kind of fight.
It was, it was a bizarre.
It was.
It was a bizarre fight because normally you expect russian fighters to come out and just be really aggressive off the hall and uh kurbanov was a little bit more reserved in the beginning of this fight, and you saw smith uh kind of in a row in a Role reversal, you saw smith coming out and head hunting really early on this one yeah, but unfortunately he just did not have he didn’t have the speed.
He didn’t have the footwork and just yeah, and it was unanimous, i believe, yeah.
I think it was.
It was unanimous on fight so yeah.
The cards i think, went uh uh, 117, 112, 115, 113, 115, 113.
, yeah yeah.
You know what and honestly uh you know it was a great battle um and you know what i’m not going to take any anything away from both those guys.
They fought a hard fight and uh.
You know the better man won.
What can you say? I give it up to uh gerbanov.
You know good for him great great great victory.
I’D like to see him again, no we’re you chatting about this fight last week, though, with uh the lines over at last bell boxing.
No, not this one wasn’t no! For some reason, i thought they were all calling liam smith on this one.
No, that was that was a while back.
Was it all okay yeah? It was a different one, no honestly good for him man, you know what he came up with a great victory.
Well deserved, he worked his ass off on that ring and you know what it just shows.
You know if it was closer, you don’t leave in the judge’s hands.
Unfortunately, the judges all said it was unanimous and you know what honestly i watch the i watch as much as the fight as i could, and you know what the judges were on point with that with that decision for sure definitely but uh yeah, there’s no uh.
There’S no actual, i don’t think there’s too many fights to watch tonight.
There might be some stuff around the world and see if i can find it.
I will definitely send you the links guys, so you can see it too, but also i’m looking for another laughter.
Asses off and uh, you know we got ta get back to work.
Guys, remember, don’t get me started.
We’Re gon na get the purdue we’re gon na have to get the producers to edit, like eight eight solid minutes of youtube laughing out of this video.
You know that right, why are you watching from two minutes to six minutes? It’S just the two of you just staring at the camera laughing yeah, that’s the stuff! You had to be there yeah.
It was great.
It was a good talk.
Good talk all right, guys, um spike fans watching.
Thank you again.
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