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EPISODE: Episode 10
Andrés Ponce Ruiz Jr. is an American professional boxer of Mexican descent. He is a former unified heavyweight champion, having defeated Anthony Joshua to win the WBA, IBF, WBO, and IBO titles in 2019, Ruiz became the first male boxer of Mexican heritage to become a world heavyweight champion.
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Transcribed:
Hello talking fight fans around the world.
Thank you once again for joining us, hey bola for another evening of education and entertainment on the scoop.
What do you have lined up for us tonight? Champ well um, i’m here to talk about.
Well, the critical brothers dominated the headway scene for actually over a decade and what amazing representatives of what hard work and talent will get you some some found them detrimental to the support, because it was difficult for those individuals to get excited about upcoming fights.
With these two juggernauts, just cleaning house regularly, i didn’t see it that way.
If anything, i saw it as these guys had a certain skill set and they were able to apply that skill set, that that style against a litany of different styles and for the most part, always came up success successful, i think, there’s a lot to be said For that say the least, but with their exodus from the scene, it opened up an open, um opportunities for other heavyweights.
You know come in and try their hands at being champions um.
This is exciting in a completely different way.
There are some definite contenders for the strap and the division supremacy.
Now today, i’m talking about a little engine.
I could even, though, there’s nothing little about um this fighter, a fighter that is the epitome of never judging a book by its cover, who will [ Music ] the greatest upset since tyson douglas, maybe even surpassing that – and this is a scoop born september 11.
1989.
In imperial california, was none other than andreas pons, louise jr, he goes by andy ruiz.
His parents were immigrants from mexico who had who made a decent life for themselves in the us um via his father, came over as a construction.
Laborer opened up his own business and then started flipping homes.
Young andy had a passion for the sport of baseball until his dad steered him in the way of boxing um apparently andy had his first amateur fight in 1996 at the age of seven in san diego.
Even though he was training out of mexicali mexico, now all it took was looking it up on the map to see exactly where all these places were, and then i realized that they’re all in really close proximity to each other.
Hence why it makes sense.
Um [ Music, ] mexicali, is like almost on the mexico us border and, as is so, is uh imperial california’s, just north of the border, less than an hour’s drive um away so yeah it was uh.
It was nothing shy of amazing, but explains he actually goes on to explain how he got the nickname, destroyer which that’s since well as apparently, history has to that when he was young, he used to destroy things, and it just so happens that it was a great Little nickname for many in conventional arms andy had an impressive amateur career um where he finished his career with a record of 105 wins and five losses.
Yeah, looking at his resume from the international competitions in the last two years was amateur career where he fought just not just internationally but as a senior, he went undefeated as a junior, an enemy of fighter, because five of his losses, all five of his losses, were In the last two years and they’re at the international um competition level, that’s that that’s actually rather impressive, which means that for the first 11 years that he was fighting, he didn’t lose 11 years.
I think that surpasses the klitschko granted he’s fighting children and he’s the child himself, but still impressive march 28.
Uh 2009 andy makes his professional debut at the age of 19.
and for the most part, never never looked back.
He brought up.
He was brought up properly fed a healthy diet of journeyman and tomato cans which patted his record nicely and moved him up in the ranks too.
Now, andy’s undefeated streak continued right until december 10 2016, when he faces off against an incredible close contest where, oh sorry um, were you faced off against um the and also undefeated kiwi in joseph parker um from new zealand in his backyard.
Now it was an incredibly close contest and with andy starting out strong and aggressive but fading during the middle rounds and then came back to life and and pretty much won the the championship round, losing a mid majority decision with the scores 114 to 114 115 to 113 twice to call these two evenly matches painfully obvious: um andy threw 416 punches and landed landed 107 in accordance with compubox um, while joseph threw 560 punches and landed 119.
again well, joseph clearly threw more and landed more and that’s the only reason why i think That he probably deserved the nod, but it was that close andy’s, big uh next big text came from a friend of mine in alexander dimitrenko from hamburg, germany.
Timothy trenko was on the world scene for some time now, but his glory days were behind him, standing at six foot, seven and weighing approximately 200 and well 260 250 pounds um.
He was a former.
He was a a formidable opponent.
Andy had just signed on with legendary manager, al haymon to become part of the stable known as the premier boxing champions pvc, so huge things were on the horizon for for andy and uh.
This was one of them.
When i watched this fight i was rooted.
I was rooting for my actual friend and hoping that he would come out um with his a game.
It wasn’t meant to be and he stopped him in the fifth round using his quick hands and big power, uh punch, combinations, andy just weathered him down demon tranquil.
I don’t know what his game plan was um.
This speaks volumes to me because, seeing how the boys, with all the belts are all pretty much doing tranquil size right now, it shows it shows that he can handle the big boys he’s only six two.
Only six two, i know you cricket people will find that huge, but for guerrillas, like myself, that’s a little mad and yet um demon, tranquil um meant to me that andy isn’t afraid of the size.
This destruction of demon, tranquil that is um, he’s not afraid of size and had a strategy to actually get by the reach, which is one of the biggest challenges that i find.
Most fighters have even the big boys when they go up against an even bigger boy.
For whatever reason, that’s the that’s the challenge now size isn’t everything.
It’S just a variable, but andy has an answer to that he’s in contention for this title and any day any which way these guys have an offline with which andy um with anthony joshua has already he’s right there.
He could be right there to take over the title prior to the democracy.
Fight andy’s name was put into the proverbial hat as a replacement for gerald big baby.
I call him fat, bastard, um and uh anthony joshua when the new york state athletic commission, not just denied miller but suspended him permanently for being caught for the third time using performance-enhancing drugs.
An opportunity opened up for potentially andrew wiese.
Now the opponent of choice at the time was louis ortiz, and but he turned it down, um not once but twice, and the money that was being offered was arguably the most that he has made.
That would have been more than he has ever made in his career.
He turned it down twice so, with one month till dance time, it was announced that andy was anthony’s next dance partner now june, 1st 2019.
The dance begins pretty much as expected: anthony controlled the action with decent combinations, but wasn’t using his reach advantage to my liking.
At least third round comes and sees andy hit the deck for the first time in his professional career.
Now he makes the count and anthony goes, does what anthony does and throws caution to the wind and tries to finish him? He seemingly wound him was a wounded opponent, oh to get dropped in the same round by this wounded opponent.
Unlike andy, anthony, was seriously hurting.
Now andy was soft and doughy, but that was where the stereotype ended.
He was hungry and it was feeding time the subsequent round, where frowns were of anthony attempting to survive and clear his head, while andy was giving, was having no part of it and continued to batter anthony around like a pinata.
The fight ended in the seventh round, with andy ruiz, jr, being crowned the new wb wba super champion, ibf, wbo and ibo world heavyweight champion.
This is the first time a mexican was crowned such as a heavyweight that is.
This was arguably the greatest upset in boxing history now december 7th of the same year.
Um saw the rematch of this fight.
Andy disappointed many people, including himself with how he returned to the ring for the rematch.
He weighed 268 pounds the first time and he was soft and doughy and whatnot, but he got the job done only to come back in their second encounter, 15 pounds heavier um anthony did more than enough to win the contest via virtually just running for his life.
Um anthony fought, respectful of andy’s power where anthony fought, respectful over of andy’s power and hand speed.
But, most importantly, he fought scared and smart andy is now working to get himself in better shape than he was when he won the title.
The first time and truth be told he actually is looking really great um from the videos and pictures i’ve seen um.
I wish him the best of luck, but i don’t think he really would need it as long as he puts in the work he’s done it before.
There’S no reason why he couldn’t be champion again.
He there was talks of who does he go up against now and i would love to see him versus deonte wilder um.
I think that that’s a contest that deonte is just a bad bad show for him.
He has.
He has a boxing iq to avoid that one punch that that’s cremated, what 42 fighters um and with tyson fury going off and showing the blueprint of how to beat deonte.
I think it’d be interesting to see, especially with this newfound um level of training and fitness level and whatnot it’d be interesting to see exactly how that contest would play out um.
I don’t think that he would be overly successful with tyson fury, tyson fury’s.
If boxing he was decent, actually very decent and um, he would find a way to actually maul him and stay away from.
The only thing is um ruiz once he got inside with those fast hands, and i well it’d be interesting, but i i think that andy, i think that uh tyson would would be victorious in that scenario.
This, like they say styles, makes fights well um i’ll, be looking forward to those those two contests, but and with that that is my show.
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Thank you.
I forgot to take off my mute button.
Thank you very much ray appreciate that you know when i first saw ruiz step into the ring.
The second time butterbean came to mind uh yeah.
He was still he was still powerful, but boy he was a tad overweight, uh, but the transformation since that time to to what he is right now and i think he’s lost close to 40 pounds.
He’S he’s he’s fighting fit right now, so he’s going to be dangerous.
I think he has a fight coming up in may uh.
I forget the chat we yeah.
I have to get the chat who’s going again: fighting um, oh god, um ariela, chris yeah, chris cereal.
So so that should be a dandy fight but uh the the transformation, though from fight two uh to where he is right now, is amazing.
So i wish him well uh, but that that, when he stepped in that ring the second time against joshua, he thought butterbean.
Yeah uh, but it’s really it’s too bad, but story has like after after he won the title.
Yeah everyone expect you to celebrate, you know, go off and celebrate, enjoy your the fact that you have but know that you have a rematch cause and you want to keep it.
This is not.
Apparently it’s one thing to win a title.
It’S another thing to keep it right: it’s actually some see it as even more difficult to keep your title, because everyone’s gunning for you and everyone’s going to come in 100.
Much like you did getting the title so yeah.
He apparently, like i said the fight was in june, um [, Music ].
The story has it that his uh camp wanted him to get back into the gym for mid-july and he didn’t get back from gym until september and like no one could tell him anything.
He was a world champion.
Well, he lost it, but it’s so weird funny.
You mentioned that because you did mention that specific point the other day with respect to trainers and coaches like how could they possibly have that within them to be able to transform a fighter? Who is a world champion if he has losses, if he’s looking to hold that title still, how do they have it within like who? Are they to tell this world champion? So maybe ruiz is a good example of someone who actually has listened but didn’t listen, effort and had to be taught a lesson and and is now willing to listen because he has it.
You know he has it within him to be a champion, obviously uh, but can he do it again? He’S got he’s he’s got a better road ahead.
I think he does, but not because of his um physicality as much as because the politics of the game.
Now now he’s known as being dangerous and everyone’s going to be afraid of them, they’re going to be, whereas they would have just easily accepted him as a as a as a as an opponent, now they’re going to do it cautiously.
Do we really want this fight? It’S a tough fight.
We saw what he did to anthony joshua.
I don’t know, i think again.
I think he destroys deante, but i think that fury actually deals with him so right right.
Well, thanks very much ray appreciate that and uh for all you talking fans out there if you’re boxers make sure you go to our talkandfight.
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