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[, Music, ], hello and welcome to the stafford boxing report.
You all already know who i am i’m sheila, i’m stafford stafford boxing the making of champions.
Excuse me you all hey, welcome! Thank you! Everybody for tuning in live and for those that are going to be tuning in later.
So what do we have going on today? Babe babe? We got a great show today we’re looking forward to sharing, with everyone glad that everyone was able to tune in live if you’re not tuning in live uh.
We thank you for watching it later on either on youtube.
Facebook linkedin rumble rumble twitter, twitter or audio or audio podbean party apple apple, google, google and so oh spotify, oh spotify, yes, um man uh, it’s just great to be here today and uh sheila.
We wanted to kind of piggyback off on last week.
On the word.
Discipline and it’s very important that we talk about discipline, because discipline is important not only to a boxer, but it’s also important in terms of achieving one goals.
So when i think about discipline, ladies and gentlemen, i think about sheila.
Ah, i do, and i’m gon na tell you what i think about her when sheila recently just graduated from georgia state university, the best university in the whole wide world hands down, and i remember years ago, when i used to uh god bless dr susan mcclendon.
She is the daughter of uh, dr krim, over at krim high school on the east side of atlanta.
You introduced me to her right: yeah yeah.
I remember a beautiful young lady, great spirit, so uh dr mcclendon was in the building of education downtown of atlanta and she was very full of life.
She inspired so many people, including myself, but one of the things about dr mcclendon god bless her soul is that she supported those who were doing significant work in the community, and i just so happened to be one of those individuals that she supported.
So i can remember one day i was uh i had to stop down at georgia state university as an entrepreneur.
It’S very important that you utilize your resources and for me i had the privilege and the honor to uh, create my foundation for cp plasma center, incorporated uh at georgia, state university and uh as an entrepreneur.
You you know, like faxing, paper, internet scanning, all those things cost.
So when you first starting off and you operating on a beans and rice budget, you want to maximize all your resources.
So dr mcclendon will always open up the center that she was the leadership over at georgia state.
So one day i i stopped down there because i told sheila: hey sheila, let me go fax, something off, and so i parked parked the car and i went and took care of the business.
When i came back, you know she was was crying and i couldn’t understand why she was crying.
I said baby what’s wrong, what’s wrong and she explained to me she said i see all these young girls and young boys, young men and young women going to school and at the time sheila didn’t have an opportunity to go to college, and so i said baby, You know what one day you’re going to have an opportunity to go to college, and i really wanted her to go to georgia state because georgia, state kind of grew me shaped me, and i knew that the infrastructure at georgia state is something that would definitely benefit Sheila and so for all the kids that come through the stafford boxing club we have a bar set.
Sheila has set the bar for education so later on.
In her later years, i’m not gon na, say yeah, but she’s a lot older, uh sheila had that opportunity to go to georgia state.
You could say my age because there’s other women that might be hesitant to go to school because of their age.
Well, baby.
I wanted to get clarifications.
Go ahead, you can go ahead and say it.
So my wife is uh.
48, i’m 48.
Now so at the time you were what 44 or 43 i think 43.
43 years old, and so she just recently graduated from georgia state.
This may, with a bachelor’s in sports administration, with a minor in entrepreneurship, so the staff for boxing was something that she wanted to go to school for so she prepared herself academically.
So let me just fast forward so anyway, when sheila first started off at georgia, it was very tough for us.
It really was.
It was a situation um that life threw a curve and life would throw you plenty of lemons, but it’s up to you to make lemonade.
So life is bittersweet.
You have your ups and your downs whatever, so you make the best out of this situation so that it can become bittersweet.
So anyway, when sheila was going to school, we was.
We was in a tough situation.
Let me just say that, but fast forward, when sheila first started off at georgia state, we didn’t have laptops, we didn’t have access to internet computers and all that other type stuff.
So sheila was getting up like four o’clock in the morning four o’clock in the morning.
Walking to the bus, stop i’m talking about rain, snow cold, he whatever you know what i’m saying to get that education and she was disciplined, and i can remember like monday.
Through friday you was at the com.
You was at school from sun up to sun down and i used to come meet her at the bus stop, and you know that discipline is what has us in this position right now with the stafford boxing club, i really do and with the staffer boxing report And everything else that will transcend from this staffer boxing initiative and when i think about discipline, i really think about my wife, because i can just you know, visualize in my head when she was like in this computer lab she.
You know she haven’t been in school.
In well over 25 years, and so the curriculum from college, it changes and it’s more advanced.
You know you have.
You have introduction to technology and stuff like that, and the curriculum is just it’s a lot harder and it’s in the curriculum is for the the future.
The present and the future – and so i remember sheila, was having a hard time with uh algebra was it it was algebra and then later it was a county yeah.
It was an account, oh my gosh, who put letters with numbers, yeah and so shame on you.
So so i can remember one day you know me and sheila was at the library and she just broke down crying out like what was wrong.
She was like i’m just having a difficult time with this.
This.
You know this.
This algebra et cetera, and i was like baby we’re going to get this we’re going to get through this together and the discipline that we both demonstrated.
One was i encouraged her, but yet it was her discipline that got her through meaning, like we didn’t, have a phone, because at the time we felt like a phone was a distraction.
I had a phone, but it was, it was a.
It was an internet, a wi-fi phone, so during that time we were just focused.
I was in the law, library, you know just going over some things, because i was dealing with some things with my company and i had a really disciplined myself to go to the law library because you know i just had to go get it.
I just had to get it out the concrete, but going back to sheila sheila was very disciplined and i can remember one time we had an opportunity to go meet with her accountant teacher.
I can’t remember her name.
I know i don’t even know if she’s, even still here so anyway, but shout out to all of my professors.
So so anyway, we had a conference with her uh accountant, teacher, yeah and and uh.
So i told her in front of her accountant teacher.
I said: listen, she looked listen.
I just don’t believe if you come to class every day and you study every day and you participate in class.
This is the discipline that this teacher will fail.
You now the teacher had agreed with what i was saying and we took it a little further, so we went and got the teacher schedule in terms of what classes she was teaching and i was saying sheila won’t you show up for this class, even though this Is not your scheduled class but show up to her class to show her how determined you are to learn and to pass this class, and it was a lot of people that dropped out of that class and didn’t pass and didn’t pass.
But sheila discipline propelled her to a passing grade and so that discipline has you know carried with her even after college.
You know even with the stafford boxing club, even with the staffer boxing report, uh just our lifestyle, what we eat.
You know i look good because and sheila look fantastic, it’s because the discipline that we, you know you’re going to show your muscles yeah we get in no cappuccino, but sheila, you know, is the image of discipline and when these kids come to our program, it is No way that we will tolerate anything less than what sheila has demonstrated if sheila can get up at four o’clock in the morning, walk two miles to the bus.
Stop do this every single day, every single day, every single day, monday through friday and then on saturdays we’re going down to the uh, the rest of the cafeteria yeah, the dining hall.
Oh boy, the best place ever and we would stay in and i would help my wife with her homework and, at the same time we eating in the dining hall.
So you know i was in this journey.
I was in this.
I was in the mud in the concrete getting this thing for sheila, because for me i felt like my true success will be through her and you graduating from georgia.
State was, i don’t know man.
There was so much emotion going on, but at the time i felt like it was just, it was special because everything you and i went through and for you to be able to walk across that stage and and shape the first african-american president in school history.
That meant something to me, you know what i mean, and so anyway, you know not just you know just kind of like getting off the subject, but you know it was just very humbling to to be a part of sheila journey.
Um going through.
You know georgia, state and and just being what the first in your family to graduate yeah so in terms of a role model for these young girls, this is it.
This is it for all the women who are older and who, who need some inspiration or who is considering going back to school.
Do it it’s your inspiration right here and, and i realized that you need support, you know what i mean, and so i’m very humbled to be able to walk with her, but at the end of the day she demonstrated the discipline.
So, for that reason baby, it’s all you, man, no cap man, so i appreciate that i’m very humbled and i’m very honored.
I have the greatest husband in the world top down for real he’s, been my motivator, my family, it’s god and my husband, because he’s never turned on me.
He’S never put me down, he’s, never discouraged me and none of that, but to anybody male or female whatever it is that you want to do your dream, your vision go for it do not stop yes, you’re going to have naysayers, yes, you’re going to have family And friends associates even people that you may just come across and you just want to talk to which you really need to be careful of whom you speak to because, as my husband has said, what goes into your ear goes straight to your heart and a lot Of people are not going to understand your vision, they’re, not going to agree with your vision, because of the way that your journey is going to take you, which is may not be the journey that everybody else may be familiar with, it’s unfamiliar to others.
So be careful of who you talk to and no matter what people say make sure you write your vision down, speak it out into the atmosphere you sometimes you may have to be your own, your own cheerleader.
When everybody else around, you is being negative and they can’t show you that type of support and discipline is extremely important, no matter what it is that you do, whether you’re an entrepreneur you’re working for a company, a boxer, a boxer.
You definitely need that, even with even with their team you’re going to have to have some type of discipline, that’s being consistent, as my husband said, to achieve your goals.
It’S part, it’s a part of somebody’s character, pretty much of what it is.
So you know what, as as cuss was say, discipline is a characteristic of a champion shout out to cuss that’s what we go by yeah for real customato.
If you don’t know about him, look him up, he was he was.
He was the uh.
The spirit behind mike tyson becoming the boxing sensation that he is and was, and i the reason why i say he still is is because he has that wisdom and even in his conversation today the books that we’ve been reading, you can see the things that cuss Instilled in him, you know what i mean and so like when uh mike tyson would say, you know when you throw a punches with bad intentions and that’s something that cuts would definitely say all the time.
Oh yeah and uh we um and you know how mike got down my gosh, so baby um you and i was talking about the best uh pound-for-pound fighters, male and female, yes and the females whoo.
I got something for you, but i know i got to be patient, but i want to start off with someone who exemplified class who spoke well spoke well very proper.
He was just a gentleman, he had flair, he dressed very well and he took boxing as a business and the person that we believe is the best pound pound male ever in the history of boxing, which is a hundred and what 40 years uh is sugar.
Ray robinson straight up, sugar, ray robinson, is the best pound for pound fighter ever and there’s been a lot of greats, no disrespect to nobody, even muhammad ali admired and took from sugar ray robinson.
He wanted him to be his manager for real.
This man here was so classy and i encouraged all young fighters to to look him up to study how he talked in front of the camera, how he groomed himself, how he, you know, dress how he just went about the sport of boxing, how he was disciplined In the gym, man like he was passionate, like you saw the commitment, i i yes, he approached it as a business, but at the same time he did it with a level of professionalism and and and that man was so serious, ladies and gentlemen, and for those Who do not know sugar ray robinson? I definitely encourage you to look him up all the young fighters.
That’S coming through the staff for boxing number one.
You would know about cuts to model you.
You would know about the number system, but you will also carbon copy sugar, ray robinson skills and his mannerism inside the ring and outside the ring baby.
What was it about sugar, ray robinson that you admired and respected? Well, he was from the slums, he was there and, like i said before, when he was making money, he used to dance.
He used to dance yeah like on the sidewalk when he tried to make money.
That’S why he had some really good fancy footwork.
I had actually watched him when he was jump roping.
He killed it.
The reason why i like him is because, during that time you know there was a lot going on with color barriers, even with the mafia gaining control, because it was such an easy sport because it was like two boxers, so it was easier to control, since they Were going to be in the ring, so he had great speed, he had power, he had conditioning, he could take a punch offensively defensively.
He was always showing it one of the fights that he almost, i think it was like for the lightweight joey maxims.
He almost took that took that title, but it was real hot, so he wasn’t he had to quit.
Apparently it was scorching hot, but the one that everybody knows about y’all say something in the comments over here.
That’S why i keep on looking over here is the saint valentine’s day massacre, which was with the raging bull.
Now i watched that fight and when i tell you i understand why it was called that i totally get it because i think it was the eighth round that lamato had robinson, but then i think, between the 11th, the 12th and the 13th.
You couldn’t stop robinson and it was it was.
It was bloody.
It was nothing i’ve.
Never it was ferocious.
I ain’t seen anything like that.
Now, when i watched jack dempsey, he was nothing to play with either.
I like i like jack dempsey.
I got respect for jack.
I see why mike tyson liked jack dempsey, i’m a big fan of jack dempsey, i’m a big fan of sugar, ray robinson uh.
I am a big fan of uh.
Let’S see man roberto duran was he was.
He was the truth yeah.
I liked him he was the true learning online jack johnson uh.
He was, he was great.
I just think that he got distracted.
He did too many women yeah.
I just think that he he wasn’t, he just got distracted and his focus went somewhere.
He was trying to prove a point pretty much of what it was.
That’S.
Why that’s one of the main reasons why he was dating white women because he didn’t want anybody to tell him what he could and what he could not do because of what had happened in the past and then with the stories that he had heard from his Family and he just wasn’t even hearing it, but just because you’re trying to prove a point like you, i can see you proven a point, but it has to be a point.
That’S worth proven: [, Music ].
So i mean i get it during that time.
I know where he was coming from, so, if you’re trying to prove something – and i’m not just saying that, like how you acted with the story that you had taught me with the gas see, you know what i have to tell you all something at one point.
In time, i didn’t realize why my husband would talk or act or react a certain way towards people if they’re being rude, because me before i ended up changing well god and then my husband and then i wanted to i’ll, be like wait a minute.
Who are you talking to and i would actually say something to them, but the way how you act, you can get good great results from it like you did today and even when we went out to the restaurant and the lady said um you were saying.
Excuse me ma’am and you were asking her: oh, can you take our order and she said well, if you can be patient and i looked up, i had to look away.
I was like.
Did she just say that where’s the customer service at but then how he acted? He said no problem ma’am and i’m getting it because sometimes you have to turn the other cheek and then with you turning the other cheek and how you respond to situations you can get, what you ask for and even get more and then they have like this Total type of respect you know for you, where back in my day and i’m not trying to say i’m all old but to get the respect you have to fight straight up.
You have to square up and be like meet me over here, and everybody will be following you and then regardless, if you won or lose of course the winner is going to be talked about, but then the one who lost was like wow, you sure did have The courage to fight that person right there, so it’s it’s it’s different.
So it’s a it was a teaching lesson.
When i watched my husband, that’s why i said in the last podcast that i am an intern and i’m a stu.
I always be a student, we’ll always be a student baby, just hush.
Where is scrapbook boxing at so he can remind you what he said last time i mean it just is what it is i mean respectfully.
If i may say, i’ve been exposed to a lot in my life, i think one of the most significant experience in my life was going to mccook nebraska, a small town of 8 000 white people.
The only black people was on a basketball team.
In that situation.
I learned how white people speak and conduct themselves under extreme pressure, and when i came to mccook i was coming from colleen park in the south side of houston.
So i had that type of mindset very aggressive just and i knew that once i went there and i saw how they interact with one another, it helped me to be able to look at life differently and when i got saved and got into god’s word, my Mentality even changed even more, and so i think that as a leader you know in our community, you know it’s a lot of responsibility that that comes with this.
Not only do we have young kids looking up to us, but we have business partners and sponsors.
That’S you know looking to see if they’re going to invest and sponsor us in different endeavors.
So it’s very important for me to take all that information that i’ve learned over the years from being in different exposures and reading books and allow it to manifest.
In my life – and i think that when a man marries a woman, he covers her and how, whatever this man characteristic is.
His wife began to emulate that, and i’m just appreciative that my wife believes in me and respects me and trusts me that i will lead us in the right direction.
But i couldn’t be the man that i am today without sheila, because one thing i can say about sheila is that she’s never tried to change me and she’s never broken my spirit.
A woman may not be physically able to to hurt a man to a certain extent, but her words can break his spirit and once you break a man’s spirit, he’s no longer useful and so by.
She will not break in my spirit and allow me to grow and mature.
This is the man that i’ve become and i’m able to pour into her what has been poured into me.
So when she see me acting a certain way, it is because we are leaders and we must act differently.
If we are believers, we must act differently.
We must act in a way where, where, when we speak, and we respond to certain situations where that individual may say, i just want to ask you a question: how did you get to this point and then that’s an opportunity for us to just kind of you Know share certain information, but you know like going back to sugar ray robinson when i you know watched his fights went high.
You know watch how he talked.
I mean i was amazed by how this man dressed like he was just so classy.
I know that in life things change, people change, the the fashion, change, etc, but one thing that i don’t think will never change.
Sheila is class.
No, that won’t ever change being a gentleman i mean this man was a true gentleman.
He was a true professional.
I just admired everything about him and i’m going to be honest with you, i’m i’m studying certain things about sugar, ray robinson so that i can emulate that in my life today, so that you know it can elevate me and that’s the thing about sheila and i We will read about people and we will observe people no matter what color, no matter, if you, young or old, if it’s positive, if we think it’s of god, then we’re going to try to you know, take that and and put that into our you know, portfolio And try to build up on that so that we can evolve and because the last thing we want to do sheila is become dinosaurs.
You know we don’t want to become dinosaurs because you become you know ineffective, and so we want to continue to be positive people.
You know, and so boxing is giving us that platform to bring light into a sport that has had so many controversial situations, be it promotion, the fighters, management etc, but with the stafford boxing club, we just want to use boxing and to add on financial literacy for Kids and education, those two things – are very important to us: financial literacy and education, and so this is just a platform for us to have a bigger agenda.
Facts, big facts.
I agree with you 100 by the way that was the percentage sign, utah utah.
So what else is going on? Oh, what do you think about the fight that happened with um? What’S my man name um, joshua yeah, i’m just i don’t know man.
I just think that in boxing you only have so many opportunities and i respect his passion.
But i think my man um, you said yeah he was fighting for his country, so i think he had other.
You know motivation to to win this fight.
That’S what you were talking about the last time with the the boxers yeah, but but joshua from uh he’s from london right.
I think so i don’t know i just i just.
I just feel i’m not saying that he did not train.
I’M not saying he didn’t.
Train, but it comes a point in time where it’s just it’s all in the mind, it’s mental and i think it was more so mental with him and that’s what i’m really getting it’s like.
It’S almost like, he didn’t think that he was actually going to win.
You know rick glazer had spoke about it too, so he had already called it out.
He did.
He did yes, he was one of our.
He was one of our guests.
Yeah he’s a he’s, a um he’s an upstanding man.
Great, like him, honest hello, mr rick glazer.
I hope you and your wife doing well um yeah, but he was right and you know one thing about cuss he was, he was a goal oriented and winning mindset.
You got to expect to win man, you can’t go in there not expecting to lose losing it happens, but that should not be the first thing in your life man.
You expect to win yeah.
I can’t even pop up in your mind because that’s what clarissa it was a video with clarissa and savannah and the the guy asked savannah and clarissa did you think about losing and and savannah said, yes and clarissa said see you messed up right there? I ain’t gon na like clarissa.
She she has a very strong mind, she’s determined she has an edge to her now she’s fighting for something i ain’t.
Even gon na lie she’s she’s fighting she’s fighting for something i believe she’s she’s fighting for herself she’s fighting for respect facts.
I can see that she, she i can see that you, but my man um.
What’S my man name from ukraine that far uh joshua, you said yeah, he was fighting for them folks in ukraine, man he was fighting for his country, so that is another part of his determination, like i’m not gon na.
Let my country down – and it was in saudi arabia, man so like when these fighters they travel outside the united states, and it seems like i don’t know it’s like.
I don’t know if they have well we’re gon na see about clarissa shields, though, but sometimes well.
I ain’t gon na lie: devin hayley, he went to uh and he represented, but i would just say, going outside of the country yeah, it’s important for you to be on your a game, because those judges may not be in your favor.
So you have to prepare for that fight as if you are going to not allow it to be in the the decision.
In the judge’s hand, you know what i mean yeah, and i can’t wait to talk about the judges, because everybody already knows the title of our podcast.
I got something to say to them: [, Music, ], baby.
You look very good in your staff for boxing entire premium.
You know what i’m saying you drill.
The drill, as you can see, is stain.
Okay, yeah miss me with all that cap yeah for real man.
You know what i’m i’m just so excited about life.
I really am um.
I think that a lot of times we allow technology and our daily lives to not appreciate the most important thing.
It can be a distraction.
It could be a distraction, but i ain’t gon na lie that google followed oh yeah and youtube too youtube.
Yeah, see we don’t even watch tv.
I couldn’t tell you, what’s i don’t even know.
What’S what what program i haven’t watched tv in, we haven’t watched tv in years.
I think we’ve since we’ve been married yeah we did a couple of times, but it’s really been years.
It’S been, but you know what i you know.
What show i miss, though i ain’t diners and drive-throughs, or drive-throughs diners and dive man i i’ll be like.
What’S my man name, i have no idea but yeah.
I can agree with you on that.
I like that show because he is it’s like you – can learn how to cook from that show too yeah.
Not only that, though, but i’m not giving him my game he’s he’s he’s giving light to the underdog.
That’S true, you know what i mean like those mom-and-pop restaurants, that we may not hear about he’ll travel all across the world and give them and every time that he go to one of the restaurants.
It goes up yeah every time i can cook, but wasn’t that god what’s his name, i don’t know.
Do you want me to look it up real, quick yeah? I forgot buddy, though it’s dives, diners and drive-throughs right yeah.
I forgot what his name, i’m gon na.
Look it up real, quick, let’s diners, drive, bins and dives.
Here we go what what’s his name what’s his name, because he also had another show darn it.
I thought.
Let me see ho sky whole sky network hold on one second, and his name is chef.
What is all that coming up? Oh here, it goes how long a second i’m going too fast, guy chef guy god takes a look at the first ddd.
We call him chef god.
His name is chef.
Guy is guy guy uh guy f-i-e-r-i yeah.
I don’t know i didn’t.
I don’t have time to put in the pronunciations yeah, but because i live on that, so it’s diners drive, diners drive-ins and dogs yeah, so diners, drive-ins and dives.
That’S what it is.
Oh here he goes.
Oh, hey, vinnie oil b! Thank you.
We missed you uh! Last monday, that’s why i’d be looking over here to make sure i do better? Okay, i don’t.
Can i talk about what i want to talk about hey baby.
This is yo.
This is your podcast.
I can’t hold it in anymore, i’m listening you’re the host.
So look everyone.
This has really been on my mind with the heart mind and heart soul, and everything about women and men about pay about being equal on the other podcast.
I have talked about boxers female boxers who have put their life on the line, have sacrificed paid their dues, yes, that too, and how women boxers how they were boxing under the radar for so long and then how, when the contracts came about how they were being Taken advantage of not getting paid yeah getting mirror crumbs facts so, but they took it, they did it because number one it was something they wanted to do was a passion for them to do it, especially during the different times that women have.
You know been in the boxing, so this is what i want to say: women inside the boxing industry and outside and outside, have done so much for us, especially when it came to the 19th amendment in the u.
s constitution, which i believe was ratified on 818 1920 To grant women to vote and that’s just beyond me to vote, are you serious? I mean we already know that at one point in time black people couldn’t vote so then they had the grandfather clause put in then women couldn’t vote.
I don’t understand that.
Then you have people like ida b wells who was the founder of the naacp.
She was an educator and she was an investigative investigator reporter, where she she was also born into slavery.
So she used to document about the lynchings and the racial violence that was going on and then she traveled, so other people would be able to know.
Then you have, if am i pronouncing? The name writes to journey truth, who was also born into slavery, and she also fought for racial and gender equality, and she was the first black person to win a suit, a court suit against white men.
Then we have, of course, susan b anthony everybody knows who susan b anthony is we have women around the world that don’t have it as good, as we do here in america and they’re carrying babies on their backs, walking miles to the to the to the store To the shop then they’re carrying things on top of their head having to go to the lake to wash their clothes come home cook prepare clean, make sure the kids are good.
Then you have a woman like coretta, scott king and first lady jack kennedy.
Now coretta scott king supported her husband.
She walked with her husband when she couldn’t walk with her husband.
She had to stay at home, take care of the kids.
She had to be mentally strong, spiritually, strong, physically strong, because she has people that’s coming to her.
Her husband and her family with violence threatening, will kill you bombing your house and she’s, a very strong woman with so so much more than she’s done and she was a classy woman.
She was a woman of god.
I said it’s about coretta scott king yeah.
I had the privilege and the honor to meet miss mrs coretta, scott, king and um.
I met her at the national youth connection.
Markel hutchins had a non-profit organization in the west end of atlanta.
It was the headquarters, but he had different chapters or whatever and down at the hilton in atlanta.
He hosts an event.
He had willie gary there.
He had uh roland martin, he was there and miss coretta scott king was there and i had an opportunity to shake her hand and when i shook her hand, i just felt the anointing that was on this woman.
I just felt the strength that was in her in her body.
I just when i saw her.
She was just i don’t know she was just she was just glowing.
She was just so beautiful to me her spirit outside she was just classy and man.
I swear man when i shook her hand, man it was like i was shaking like you know, like a you know like like an oak tree.
How strong it is.
I mean that’s how like it was when i was shaking her hand and – and i just told her i just said ma’am just thank you for just being a classy woman, and i told my partner named uh kevin oliver.
I said: hey man, i’m gon na, find me a coretta one day.
I’M i’m to go, get my coretta and when i say miss sheila is that coretta? Thank you and i’m her mlk.
Thank you go ahead, then.
We have had first lady jackie kennedy.
She was a classy woman.
I really like the way that she dressed.
I wish i could find some of her clothes.
She had drip that she wore and then what she was going through and how she conducted herself and taking care of the kids and staying in a situation that we would say is unhealthy, but how she thought about.
It was her family and her kids and america and everybody else around the world.
So my thing is, you have a a male and you have a female, that’s on a job right and they’re doing the same thing.
But apparently the man gets paid more beyond me, but they’re doing the same thing.
So my whole thing is that we’re no longer we’re not knocking on the door anymore, we’re not knocking the door is kicked down, we’re standing on top of the door, we’re sitting across from you at the table because break bread.
The thing that i don’t understand is – and i have to read this and i’m going to read it word from word, because it’s a quote from one of the female boxers from de la rose petis petez.
She says i have a lovely son, who’s, seven years old, like many women, i am raising him on my own.
The new homeless is the women and the children and then for men to show that type of disrespect and i’m not going to get into it.
How? I got into it before, but we all came from a woman who carried us for 10 months.
Maybe some they’ve had their child a little bit earlier or then later and then you got your food from your mother.
There’S mothers out there whether you’re, married or you’re single that have made many of sacrifices for you to be where it is that you are today so women it’s time to negotiate, stop procrastinating.
If you don’t know how to negotiate go to youtube.
If you know somebody who does go talk to them say i would like to take you out for a cup of coffee or tea or whatever may be.
You know what you may be able to afford so at least you’re showing them some type of appreciation, bring a notepad write.
Some notes down, go to the library, get some books, because it’s beyond me that men go y’all can go smoke.
Your cigars somewhere go drink.
Some cognac can i say this baby.
Wait, wait, hold up wait.
Let me say this: there’s nothing, there’s nothing! It’S nothing! Have your hands in your pants holding your balls, no real talk, while the women are going home, picking up the kids from school day care, okay, making sure that they’re fed making sure that the kids school work is getting completed.
Going to pta meetings coming to the class to show participation, making sure that the husband is good.
His suits are in the cleaners unless you’re ironing god bless you.
If you are there’s nothing wrong with ironing.
We stay late, we’re passionate about what it is.
We do when we’re given an opportunity to do something we take off and you all have been taken advantage of this and taken advantage of us.
Why would you want to not pay a woman, because we are different and we have different body parts than you are? What, if you all were in our situation – and that was happening to you all you all wouldn’t like it, so relax your shoulders? Let your ego go, stop being so uptight.
Would you want your mother to not make money, because there’s no way that someone should be working for somebody and you still struggle ain’t no way? And let me tell you all this too: i was reading a um application.
I just happen to read one make sure y’all read those applications.
If you work for somebody because on that application, now in georgia they can fire you whenever they want, they don’t even have a reason.
So if you went to work today and you’ve never been late, you’ve been on time and you did what you’re supposed to do.
Georgia can just fire, you, okay, but this was in another state that i was reading, was washington dc and at the end of the contract.
In small writing, it said that they can change your pay for less and they can actually fire you when they sign the contract.
When you sign it, that’s why they say check here or sign here.
If you agree, that’s why i tell everybody – and i’m going to tell you all again whether it’s in boxing um any type of investment agreement you’re going to the bank read the contract.
If you don’t understand the contract, if you can get a lawyer get a lawyer, but on the last podcast i mentioned that the lawyers sow a seed, at least that one time or two times, if you want, because you never know other doors – will open.
Because a word of mouth, or even, if not word, of mouth, because you did that kind gesture once again, youtube google go to the library because we’re talking about your life so that little bit of time that you have to take to protect yourself.
I think it’s! It’S it’s very well planned to do but baby.
If i may say what you saying is absolutely correct and i totally agree and i support 100 – that’s why i am the co-host and you are the host.
You are the ceo, i’m the ceo of the staff of boxing, but we have to acknowledge a woman who is somewhat of a trailblazer in our eyesight, not somewhere.
She is a trailblazer and she is the uh beginning of what is to come because of her determination and discipline not to give up, and that, ladies and gentlemen, is amanda.
Serrano, hey, miss lady, i’m gon na tell you straight up no cappuccino me and my wife.
We are big fans of yours.
We are your number one fans we want to.
Let you know that we are impressed by your fighting style.
We are impressed that your fighting, not only for women, but you fighting for your country, puerto rico.
I salute you for all your accomplishments to me and sheila.
We believe that you are the best pound for pound champion four divisions in the history of woman boxing.
That’S our world record, that’s our opinion and we’re standing on seven division.
World champions, stop playing with me.
Man, hey man for real and i’m gon na tell you ma’am you fight with it your style, you’re, aggressive, your body shots.
I mean you, you remind me of like tyson like this always on you.
You always want a proud first, you know what i’m saying you hear all these first first first first, first, first first and i’m gon na tell you this right.
Now, new york, city golden gloves, man, listen i’ma, tell you this right now empire state amateur champion.
You got wrong with that katie yeah, she got one taylor fight and you got robbed.
I’Ve been what’s wrong with those judges because they were sitting right there and they know exactly what was going on.
You had her bloody.
No, actually, she had her running no, but but but baby she had her running like the first.
I think it was the second round when she got hit in the nose and you can kind of see a little bit of blood coming down katie.
But i ain’t taking that one on her.
I ain’t taking nothing, give up.
I ain’t taking you you’re trying to get.
No, i just don’t understand how you lost that fight man.
I mean, like i mean bruh, but what i will say that i really respected you even more miss amanda was that the class that you demonstrated, even though you knew that you won that fight.
You knew that you knew that.
Not only not only that man say man, you know what we got to get credit for credit, dude, yeah, say jake, paul, hey, bro, y’all slipping on, i mean salute to you bro.
I respect your husband they’re loyal to each other.
I remember when i first went.
Look, this is what i want to say real, quick and he believed in amanda.
Yes, and one more thing before i forget: okay, go ahead because of amanda’s sign with jake paul management, company promotion, company yeah, she became a millionaire facts.
She wasn’t a millionaire until she signed with jake paul jake paul was like when he had his fight.
She was on his card and he was impressed by her yeah.
He was like man what and then she made history in the sport of boxing like that.
She was the headliner she’s been making history baby man.
I don’t understand how short it out.
Man, man, she would put no 50 toes on that girl man.
I’M telling my breath she would give him now.
I will say i think it was that sixth round, where she kind of she kind of like you know she still was.
She still was you know, giving her that work that she’s powering her punches.
She can fight backwards.
She got defensive, she’s got she’s offensive.
She got those combos, she is precise.
She knows where she’s going her conditioning is phenomenal and you know what it was her sister.
It was her sister that first um.
Actually, if my memory serves me well, she was 18 years old, i’m just looking over at the car yeah.
She was 18 years old and she was at the desk and she was uh.
She was uh, she was looking at a newspaper and she seen something about a golden glove or something like that, and so she signed up for it and she, her sister, is the one who who was boxing first.
It was her sister.
So then the trainer told her sister to put it on so the first time she was crying.
But then she came back the next day.
The trainer told put it on.
You know what i’m saying.
Then she broke down again and then it was the third time she came back.
She was like i’m i’m gon na train and for from that point on she created she.
She had that type of discipline.
Yeah.
You know what i’m saying to to to fight to prepare.
I ain’t gon na lie man and then, on top of that man, you would expect for her to get some type of fairness in her home state.
That’S what i that’s what i was she was in.
She was at madison square garden.
It was a sellout crown over 19 000 folks recipient bro.
Twice man come on, no dose man come on bro.
I don’t understand how look bruh i don’t know what it is, but katie is not she’s, not number.
One.
Look jake paul had to hold his composure because i was looking at him because he was like.
I know he just wanted to go off at the time, but he was not being selfish.
He was more so i believe, thinking more about amanda on how he was acting when they were in the ring, and i want to say something about jay paul and i’m just not saying this just to be saying it.
But this is always from the heart.
This ain’t cap – this is not for us to get brownie points or anything like that.
What what’s that word that you know the young folks hold up? It’S called um.
I forgot i come to me.
They say you be using it for clout, yeah clock changing.
I remember when jay paul first came and that’s when facebook was just starting and what was it called vines.
It was him and his brother and then they would do videos with other people.
Now he was smart because he came in at the right time.
During that time, and then i believe he may have gotten into some type of trouble – and i remember i watched a little bit of this interview with him and he said box and saved him and then all of a sudden like we were talking before and you Said – and it was true around that time, when jake paul fought nate was it nate robinson boxing really wasn’t being talked about it.
It was even going around saying you know what boxing is it’s it’s over.
It’S going down so yeah.
They were saying that the mma was coming up well, when jake paul came in boom.
All of a sudden.
You know boxing this box and that and then people wanted to put him down and say: oh he’s, not a boxer, but wait a minute hold up pump.
Your brakes there’s a lot of boxers that wasn’t boxers for real okay.
They went through some things, they got into some trouble and then they were able to get into boxing because someone grabbed a hold of you, but then they want to say.
Oh he’s this internet thing.
So what because guess what he knows, how to market? That’S? Why so it’s like! He always comes in right on time and i’ve actually seen him train, hey, baby, listen, jake, paul, don’t down the player, crown him salute to you, jake paul and then hold on baby.
You know what hey man look jake paul.
We would love for uh you to sponsor us through the prime that drink man, our kids would love that drink.
It would help them be focused, it would quench their thirst, they would love to have some of that drink.
So we would definitely love a value in kind sponsorship to have supply of that prime beverage to sequence, the thirst of our children at the stafford boxing club, the making of champions, because also so some some people don’t know that, where we’re at the county, they no Longer have free lunch anymore.
No, so that’s another reason why the staff are boxing clubs, man, we got to provide leadership, we got to provide parenting, we got to provide clothing, we got ta, provide food, we’ve got ta provide uh.
I know you said clothing, but they’re gon na be able to wash their clothes because we know that the families are gon na need some help and we also are going to need to pick the kids up amanda.
Why you five i’ve always liked amanda.
I think i reached out to amanda one time when i was in uh when i had just started college or something like that.
I think i had reached out to her at one time.
So this is not just something that we just came up with.
You’Ve always been talked about and she’s also the first female super world championship, title holder for real see.
All these first see that’s what i’m talking about everybody.
These women are doing some amazing things because there’s discipline and when, given that opportunity, you know women are going to work a hundred thousand times harder than anybody else with passion and then with purpose, and then what i love is when, with amanda she’s loyal.
You know women are very loyal and i believe that’s another reason why a lot of times women are being taken advantage of, because nowadays, women, we don’t have to accept certain things.
We don’t have to accept it anymore.
Now it’s really time for us to come together for a purpose.
I understand that nowadays we have to be careful with whom we talk to, because a lot of people are just angry for in their personal lives.
Maybe they just went through something their job.
I don’t know what it is, but women we have to start being more loving towards one another like we can speak to each other.
We can, just you know just say hi like what i do is i’ll smile and then i’ll just go like this i’ll smile or, i might just say hello, and i’m actually talking more because i’m not gon na lie to you all.
I did have a situation where coming out of my box towards women.
It was hard for me because women hurt women, because women are hurt, so hurt people hurt people and i just think women opt to to all the women.
I don’t know you, but i will say i love you.
I have love for you all.
I want all of us to succeed and women when we do get to the place.
Well, we are at a place now because women are just being able to achieve so much ain’t, no more glass ceiling, no more so when you’re, given an opportunity and you’re in that position, especially when you’re getting paid well stay.
Humble and don’t forget where you came from and remember the next person behind you, because that’s what it’s all about, it’s not about you! It’S about the person that’s coming behind and it’s not about male or female black and white.
It’S just the mindset.
You should have always been considerate about the next person.
That’S coming behind you, because someone in front of you paved the way for you to have the opportunity that you are experiencing today and that’s the women that i talked about and especially amanda now, even from 2013.
Maybe before that amanda, if we left anything out, please excuse us, but all i see is first first first first and that’s why we see greatness on you for real facts and that’s why we chose you for the greatest pound for pounds so female.
We we need to really see more of amanda and hear more about you, and also she does a great job when she’s on social media to doing the same thing like jake paul does.
But we need to hear more from you and i’m going to say this.
One more time and i’m not going to say it no more.
That sounds so funny.
I know i’m very proper you all so it kind of comes off funny, so you can laugh it’s okay for all the promoters.
I’M going to tell you this one more time.
Get you a social media manager, or i might put you up on game just because i’m just gon na do that this one’s on the house, the next one i’m gon na, have to charge you um interns from college.
I just graduated from gsu.
I took some of those classes, so you can do that, but don’t take advantage of them.
I’M telling you do not take advantage of them still give them something, but you know what they’re doing now they’re having interns actually get paid.
Yes, now they might not get paid what they would normally get paid if they was not interning, but they are getting something, and this is what i want to say too, but the most valuable thing that an intern should be looking for.
Is the experience? That’S the that’s, that’s the goal.
The goal is to obtain the experience and with that experience, going to lead and compensate what you thought that you were missing out when you was interning by you acquiring that experience, it’s going to make you more valuable, make you an asset.
So when you come to the table to negotiate, you will have not only your degree, but you also have experience so that will bring value to the negotiation table.
Leverage, if i may say when my husband talks during this podcast, i forget sometimes that we’re on the podcast and i’ll just look at him because i’ll be so in tune to what he’s saying and it’s almost like, i’m spaced out.
So then i turn around i’m like.
Oh look at this.
We’Re here live today august 22nd, 2022 yeah.
But i’m glad that we talked about what we talked about.
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I really enjoyed this this podcast today.
I think that it was very diverse.
You you spoke about discipline, you use yourself well, i use you as an example about discipline and we talked about um.
We kind of went back in history yeah.
We talked about history.
We talked about some great women inside the boxing ring and outside of the boxing ring.
We talked about sugar, ray robinson, how important he is to the sport of boxing, how significant he is for the the leadership that he left behind how muhammad ali and other fighters emulated sugar ray robertson.
That’S where you came with sugar ray lena.
He used sugar right.
He was, he was inspired by sugar, ray robertson and so uh.
We definitely talked about amanda and she exemplifies being a leader.
Yes, yes, she is very classy, she is, but she is so humble she’s, very humble she’s very humble, and we talked about jake paul and, and we talked about how his leadership his vision, yeah.
He does have a vision, not only his talent in terms of marketing.
In the media, i don’t know why i don’t know why what’s his name, hassam or haseem could not make his way, because i guarantee you it’s probably money.
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