Ain’t That A B**** | The Sugar Show with Natalie Brown | Talkin Fight
EPISODE: Episode 12
Ain’t That A B**** | The Sugar Show with Natalie Brown | Talkin Fight
Natalie discusses her perspective as a former professional boxer and women’s boxing enthusiast.
The SUGAR Show is a series focused on Women’s Boxing. Natalie SUGAR Brown visits all aspects of Women’s Championship Boxing involving both up-and-coming and seasoned amateur and professional female boxers, along with studio segments covering headlines and developments across the sport. The program primarily broadcasts on Wednesday nights at 7:30 pm eastern time, weekly.
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[, Music, ] foreign – yes, it is Wednesday, 7 30 or a little bit past 7 30 on a Wednesday night, and it is the sugar show happening tonight as I’m speaking right now: I’m Natalie sugar, brown and uh.
This is my platform on every night.
Every Wednesday night, at 7 30, where we come and talk about women’s boxing and sugar me uh, gives a window into the authentic experience of a woman boxer and what’s going on out here, oh so already already, we got uh somebody joining the party my face is In the place and guess who else is in the place already women’s Boxing Channel – hey baby, hey women’s Boxing Channel? How are women’s Boxing Channel says y’all? Well, thank you.
You sure know how to make a girl feel special.
Thank you and then a women’s boxing comes in women’s Boxing Channel comes in and also says: how are you Huns? Well, I’m doing good and especially uh doing excellent.
Now that I got you in the party tonight, thank you for joining and so uh.
Last week, sugar had to run sugar had some some some stuff that popped up.
Uh Michael Oher comes in.
You know, I’m here sugar, oh my gosh, okay, so Michael Oher is in the building and of course it is now now it’s going down.
Okay, so my guys are all right or my my people are here: Michael Oher is in the building.
Uh women’s boxing channel is in the building, and you know what I’m looking for more more of my Misfits showing up.
But let’s talk okay.
So what about my father’s business, which what so about my father’s business in is in the building tonight face is in the place? Okay, then, okay and um women’s boxing channel is hailing up, hey Mike, so Mike you getting held up by women’s Boxing Channel and um.
Okay, so let’s talk: let’s talk, let’s talk the things.
Okay, so um I mean it.
Ain’T been too too exciting.
Uh, I mean, of course Shenanigans have been happening in women’s boxing, but tonight you know um.
Last night I mean last week, like sugar said uh there.
There was some stuff that popped up and I had to.
I had to uh cut the show short.
I was highlighting some Crohn’s out here, looking back, not bad in a in that bad way, but damn looking bad hot and they kicking ass out here.
So I was giving them their Spotlight, those those hot crowds, but now tonight we’re talking about uh, some interesting action that has happened recently, y’all out there.
Let me know what y’all think um Terry Harper uh just finished, fighting Hannah Rankin and um.
Oh women’s Boxing Channel comes in what do you think is going to be the results between 154 to carry versus Natasha Jonas announced just now? Okay, I got I got my speak on that, but let’s talk about, let’s talk about now, the the the whole the whole significance and the relevance of that fight coming up.
Okay, so um Michael Orr comes in ranking, fought a good fight, though now the fights ended up.
Um women’s Boxing Channel said I think Harper looked brilliant versus Rankin okay, so we got some with.
We got some opinions out here and I want to drop mine in the Hat too.
Okay, so um it was a decent fight and um.
I think me and my lovely assistant um might have came together with some some footage or some action and and for us to talk about this, so I mean we got the tail of the tape up right now.
Okay, so you can see, I always get jammed up here, where they they have um.
They have it where Terry Harper, the age okay, so they have Terry Harper, asked 32 years old and Hannah Rankin as 25 years old.
Now let me tell y’all something: okay, they really they really effing up out here I got ta say first, the one commentary match soccer, and now this this a women’s Boxing Channel, why you put that ear up women’s Boxing Channel got ta ear up: okay, um, Michael Orr says uh a little too much bouncing around for me, but Harper looked good at that weight, okay, um and so um.
They got the information out here.
Could we we still want to talk? We talk about the action.
Okay, so uh.
First of all, y’all know they they they done messed up the ages.
So it’s Vice Versi up here.
Okay, Terry Harper is 25 years old and Hannah Rankin is 32 years old right.
So they got to get the bras ages right come on now.
Do us at least do us like that at least: do us right, okay, um, so the the the ages are switched around there.
I mean fire these people or hire some better people.
That’S all I got to say the information is significant as well.
Okay, if you can’t get the information right, if you can’t get the sport right right hire somebody else that will okay, there’s there’s people out here, who will make sure or who, who are interested enough to make sure the information is conveyed correctly.
Okay, so um: where were we okay, so the records as of that night uh? So we had Rankin, who was 12 5 and uh 12 wins five losses, and I think three um is that three um women’s Boxing Channel you you the one that you, the education won in the in in the conversation now so uh, I’m not sure.
If these 12 are draws or if they’re, Kos, okay and on the other side, we got Terry Harper, which is 12, wins one loss.
I guess that’s the one draw and six chaos, I’m thinking, that’s what it’s! What these numbers are? Looking like right now, okay uh Hannah Rankin is five.
Nine Terry Harper is five eight and a half okay and um Hannah Rankin, weighed in at 153.
4 pounds solid middle.
I mean well junior middle and um Hannah Rankin weighed in at uh 152 solid like and like Mike said.
She looked solid.
She looked good.
She she looked to me more solid as middleweight than Natasha Jonas did when she fought burgled.
To be honest, Natasha Jonas looks like a fighter that stepped up she’s still got the small arms and the small stature um, and that fight between Natasha Jonas and Patricia bergolt.
It showed how Scrappy Jonas is, and it showed how much of of a dog she is.
Okay – and I that’s why I mess this with her – that’s why I love that broad, okay, um she’s, showing in the game – and she has showed in the game that she’s a bad [, __, ], okay, she she’ll fight and she wants to fight.
She stands as she fights and that’s what I like about.
Jonas, you don’t see her hopping around or bouncing around, even when she got even when she got slumped right.
She was she was trying to stand in there and she was trying to fight my girl.
What’S her name uh, I I also did a previous session about her because I liked her she was, she would cry she would cray-cray, but she was.
She was that Scrappy cray cray that that we need in women’s boxing too bad.
She might have murdered her husband, but you know: y’all checked that one out, okay, um women’s Boxing Channel comes in to say I knew Harper would be very capable at 154 after jumping up from 130, but predicted that Rankin would out Point her now.
This is where I want to go with this fight: okay, a lovely assistant.
You got any like what we got out here, what we had what we got out here: [, Music, ], [ Applause, ], [, Music, ], um, [ Applause, ], [, Music, ], [ Applause, ], [, Music, ], [, Music, ] every time; [, Music, ], [ Applause; ] [ Music, ] Rankin, was the one that was holding it down in this fight right, ranking, wasn’t running, Rankin stood steady on her real estate, and you know it was mostly her chasing uh Terry Harper around right in the ropes.
So I got some input here from from my Misfits coming in um uh women’s Boxing Channel says I was wrong.
Harper looks like a great candidate for Undisputed.
For me, she’ll beat the Kerry.
Now I want to explain this when or or in these type of, when you step up in weight in boxing period, sugar always says this Styles make fights okay, and so the style is gon na, be not like a lightweight style.
Where you know people are going to be, but you know you, you got the light weights bouncing around and they ride in the ropes and they bounce.
And no, when you move up ain’t, nobody dancing right, you standing there and you throw in giving and taken like it’s.
It’S not it’s not where you know yeah hit and get and not get hit, but you got there.
There’S now you’re, you’re, more so absorbing shots.
You’Re using the defensive you’re using your guard more as a heavier fighter, because nobody got don’t.
Nobody got the time and the the wind and all of that stuff at at middleweight to be hopping around you got more body, you’re, more solid.
You have power right.
So there’s no need for you to float around, like Muhammad Ali Lee did say, float like a butterfly sting like a bee, yes, and he was bopping and stuff, but when it came time after a while – and this is not the type of Fight You Can’t float, You can’t do it fighting two minutes right now that now this becomes glorified amateur boxing which we don’t like once you turn pro that Amy [ __ ] is gone.
We’Re not impressed with that hippity hop bull Jive! No more! You got ta fight.
Now you got ta, you use the guard, you use the parries, use the skills that pay the bills.
You know what I’m saying it’s not hopping around now: it’s not it’s not slap boxing.
It’S not touch fighting, it’s not Point fighting anymore, so I wasn’t impressed with that at all and if Harper continues thinking that she can hop around women’s Boxing Channel, I’m sorry to say – and if you think this too, you think that hop around style is gon na Get her to be Undisputed at middleweight, you sadly mistaken nah that fairy [ __ ] is for the lower weights.
Yeah! That’S why people want to see the big bonded broads fight right because they stand in there and and they they’re giving and taken okay um women’s Boxing Channel says the Jonas.
Is that dog you say and it will be a great Harper versus Jonah’s fight uh.
After that draw at Eddie’s house during lockdown, where I thought Harper scraped a win now um um their fight at lightweight, and I like that, you brought that up baby.
I like that.
You brought that up women’s Boxing Channel because now it’s going to be another clash, and – and this is that can this can also be super.
This can be a super match right because now it’s another story, it’s another page in that drama where they met at lightweight and Harper out, pointed a Jonas, but now at middleweight, because now you’re a different broad at a different weight.
I’Ve always, I always say this you’re a different fighter it when you move up you’re a different fighter when you move down you’re a different fighter right and styles make fights, so you may not that the style that you had to adopt at a lower weight may Not be that style that it was best for you, but you move up and you become you know you become stronger sturdier.
You can do what you you can you can be a bit more of a a bully at a heavier weight.
That may be where the fight is for you broad Crone right.
So that’s what makes this that the women’s boxing interesting in that way um women’s Boxing Channel.
I guess you were laughing at me.
W-2-E-T-F hahaha great sound effects.
Okay, so I was putting a little yes, I was being animated and y’all y’all should know that by now that sugar is animated, and I and I tend to be silly and goofy, but I suppose I suppose y’all may like that about me um about my father’s Business that sounds chopped and screwed, so the clip yeah we had to chop and screw the video because we try not to get flagged, but you know maybe we trying a thing tonight, so we we chopping it up.
We screwing it.
We serving it on the side and and we’re seeing we see we seeing how good that that work, we’re seeing if, if that’ll work out tonight, women’s Boxing Channel says slow motion sound is banging out on the video.
So we can’t hear a word you’re saying: oh that’s what it is.
I’M sorry you guys we got ta work on some stuff there.
So yes, if y’all didn’t hear what I was saying during the video, I was saying that action that y’all act, that y’all were seeing in the video was basically the whole fight, Harper, jumping in and hugging and smothering uh, ranking and ranking just kind of grabbing and And holding her ground in in the match, there was no real action.
Besides that for all 10 Rounds it was.
It was boring if you asked me, but you know um, I I love women’s boxing, so there’s always something um.
We can appreciate about all these matches.
I’M not going down, no broad, no Chrome, you know, but um what’s happening now in women’s boxing.
Well, what wasn’t happening before is we have the platform, but we don’t have the action, I’m going to say that I’m saying it the broads out here, ain’t a scrappy.
The broads out here, ain’t uh, fighting they’re, not fighting they’re, not banging they’re, not taking chances they’re, not raw.
I mean a lot of these a lot of these broads nowadays because they got a little Amy background feel like they’re, better than the old.
The olden days or what you know, what used, how the action used to be be back in the day, but it’s not I mean they.
They need to step it up.
They’Re boring now and I’m not saying all, but I’m saying majority of these, these five they’re boring they boring as hell.
Don’T nobody want to see Point fighting? Nobody wants to see women.
I’M sorry – and I keep saying me and Mike been on the same page since day one and this used to happen back in the day.
We want to see broads get slumped.
Okay, we want to see broads getting folded.
Okay, you want to know why, because there’s just uh, there’s just um something interesting about watching women, fight and watching women get to that place or take each other to that place, and I don’t care what nobody say.
Judge me judge your mama judge.
Jesus right, everybody got everybody here to get judged, but there’s a group of us people call boxers and boxing fans who just like that: okay and we’re not getting as much of it as we as they.
It used to happen back in the uh times.
Where um, you know we had it, it was more about where women were going three minutes and and and and 15 rounds back back when Tonawanda tiger Jamar, Kat Davis.
All of that stuff um would happen.
Okay, um, let me see my guys are um chiming in so let me let me um put that so um, let’s see what you guys are saying: okay, so uh Michael Orr says Rankin was pushing the pace.
Absolutely Rankin was pushing the pace and I think Rankin should have won the fight, because Harper wasn’t fighting unless Rankin was stepping to her.
How are you going to be a champion like this? This boxing or fighting is a it is, is the um personification of aggression? So we’re bringing aggression to where it it’s it’s tangible.
You can see it right, because aggression could be um brought forward in many other ways.
It could be verbal aggression.
There could be you know, um.
There can be gestures that are aggressive right, but actual fighting is the personification of tangible aggression right so um and and and the scoring of boxing is based on on that right.
You, you have to make a fight to win the fight.
You have to be the one to make the fight and win make that battle and win it and those small series of battles that you make, or these small series of battles that you win equate to you winning the actual Round And, if you’re, winning all these Little battles and winning the rounds and then winning rounds then the more rounds you win in the duration of the fight Tally’s up to who actually won the the fight right.
So then, the one who wins the majority of the rounds wins the fight.
If it goes to decision, that’s how that works? Okay, it’s not about points! This is pro women’s boxing.
So just because somebody got bopped, so did she get bopped and then you pressed her back right.
Did she did her head go back and then you made her.
You know: did you make her step off the spot? Did you make her change direction in what she was doing? Did your action cause her to um the cower or or fall back in her actions? If it didn’t, then baby you’re, not winning the fight you’re, not doing nothing in the fight, and so that’s what was happening in this Terry Harper versus Hannah Rankin fight watch, it y’all.
I mean it like that is the.
That is what was frustrating about watching that fight, because you know just because you look like the you know, just because she’s in there and she’s jumping around and she she’s, you know doing all of this.
If you, if you’re doing all of that and your opponent is still in front of you and doing what she was always doing from round one from the beginning of the round baby, you ain’t doing nothing you’re, you ain’t, doing nothing! You you’re, not making a difference! Right, if you are not, if your actions are not making the opposition redirect themselves or or you know, recoil from from, if you’re not moving a [, __, ] you’re, not winning no fight and and that’s where that’s that’s what it is right now so like.
I don’t this is why I I don’t like Eddie Hearn as a promoter, because he is the one.
That’S permit sorry perpetuating this glorified amateur style, which is it’s not gon na sell women’s boxing.
It is not women’s boxing, that’s not how we fight that’s, not how women boxers fought it.
It was, it was more raw right, it was unconventional, it was it it.
It was more than would than this amateur Point fighting now you know hit and bopping.
You know hit and move and hit and move I’m sorry, women’s Boxing Channel.
That seems to be the style that you like, but us Dead.
Like Me, I’m I love boxing, not just women’s boxing.
I love boxing period.
I love fighting I’ll watch any fight.
I watch bare knuckle fights I watch underground.
Sugar went underground.
Sometimes you know what I’m saying I like the art of that, because at the at the very smallest fraction of it all going across the board, it is the creativity and creating the windows and blocks and opportunities to take your opponent apart, not score a point.
Taking the person in front of you, apart, okay and the the psychology of that, the physicality of that the movement of that all the gestures all come together in what that’s supposed to look like and that’s a different.
That’S a that’s! A different picture, a different piece of art than Point fighting, because Point dotting is pretty much you.
I don’t know if y’all this is how old I am like.
I used this used to be my jam too y’all used it y’all ever used to have those connected dot, um pictures where it would it’s just all dots and then it starts from one dot.
And then you go you, you draw a line from one dot and this goes to two.
Then it goes to three then four, five and then you know you follow all the dots.
The next thing you know you got a kitty cat in front of you right.
That was like my jam.
Okay, that’s what point fighting is and that needs to that needs to stay in the amateurs right.
The prose is where, like what you see behind me that Mosaic that different [ __ ], that that stuff, that may may look a mess, but then you see, oh, is that a g is that a face in that mess? You know what I’m saying like you see the where it’s coming together and that to me: that’s the beauty of it right and I’ve seen that in men fighting and in women’s fighting or when men’s boxing and women’s boxing um women’s Boxing Channel, says Cecilia bracket says She wants anyone at 154 with a belt.
That would be great here.
You come with your girl, Cecilia bag.
Lady, you ain’t getting no belts.
Talking about she’ll.
Take anybody, but don’t nobody want you.
You want to take anybody, but don’t nobody want you girl? You don’t spent what 20 plus years hoarding those belts and stealing from people stealing decisions from people.
You could have had so much potential in all the in any rematch scenario and anything if you didn’t Rob all those.
Ladies, all, those years nobody’s interested in seeing Cecilia breakfast fight anybody anymore, she’s dated yeah, so I mean yeah.
She could take anybody that she wanted what but ain’t nobody.
Don’T nobody want her, so we gon na keep it moving, but yeah the lady you’ll find you’ll find somebody to to pick it.
They give you a bag or or they give you something uh one of these days.
It ain’t gon na mean it ain’t gon na.
Be me, though, girl uh get your shine.
Maybe she should do like a podcast or something maybe she should um.
I don’t know.
Maybe she should do something like that.
You know, and all of these pictures that she’s taking now like look at Cecilia, run look at she’s on the mountain she’s, this she’s on a boat she’s a um.
Maybe you know we we done with that.
We we done with all of that.
Girl live your life, go, have some babies go, do something you find you somebody and we keep it moving.
So um women’s Boxing Channel also says, but she ain’t got a belt now.
So guest Breakers will only get a fight once Undisputed is achieved and rematched ciao.
Please ciao please about my father’s business says: let’s hit that thumbs up right said: listen hit the thumbs up, hit the thumbs up right now.
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It’S a party, it’s a part, it’s a party right and – and I like I love what everyone’s saying I love everyone being present um.
You know boxing and bouncing for 10 rounds at middleweight with this Terry Harper versus Hannah Rankin fight uh, and these are two names.
Okay, these are two names in the the division um it it just wasn’t doing it.
It wasn’t doing it for me, I’m I’m not even interested in and it would have been a great match if they had gotten.
If, if they had let loose a little bit more um Rankin fought a good fight, I think Rankin should have won that fight.
I really do um, but it wasn’t interesting enough to for for me to care to to see it again and I don’t know how y’all may feel about it.
But it’s the sugar show and that’s what that’s: how that that’s, what it is! That’S how sugar feel about that? Okay, um! But let’s talk.
Let’S talk this thing, so Natasha, Jonas, okay, that we were telling them.
I had a earlier episode about this.
A middleweight division is getting hot.
It’S dead enough, hotter than she them stepping in hotter this year.
They stepping in hot at middleweight, okay, um here come the hot step of murderer.
Okay, um Natasha Jonas is the hot stepper she’s not playing with these broads in middleweight.
Okay, so she fought burgled and took the belt and burgled in that fight was a lot bigger than Jonas.
She was exhausted.
Um in that fight, wait a minute.
They don’t turn the lights off.
Give me a second now foreign yeah Natasha Jonas is not playing.
She was she, she looked very exhausted after the um fight between her and burgle, because bergal just had so much body and she was absorbing all of um Jonas’s um attacks, okay, so um it.
A lot of.
I mean these.
These broads now don’t realize it, and it’s I mean I guess back in the day or even now, you see where there used to be like a a a huge window where a a broad can rally she can rally from 130 pounds right on up to 160 And go in between where the fights you know the fights um uh present themselves, but now uh, I would say more: the fighters are more durable.
Now, it’s not that they’re better, but you know they’re they’re, they’re more durable, now, um they they can they’re they’re better conditioned now they’re they’re showing up because it’s it’s kind of it.
It’S not where um before you know you have to just run and and do the the sparring rounds and then you’d be in shape for a fight.
Now bras are lifting weights.
You know what I’m saying.
Broads are conditioning themselves for the battle you know.
So it’s it’s not it’s not it’s, not as it was before so uh.
These broads are able to take more punishment, so you got to be careful how you move up and how you move down right, even even um, where the these broads, I don’t know how they’re doing it either like broads, are going, are rallying from a hunt hundred Twenty something pounds all the way up to 160.
How are you doing that? Like I just don’t I’m as a fighter I couldn’t.
I couldn’t really do that.
You know I had my I I could probably I knew I know I had the power to move.
Probably move up the light heavy, but I wouldn’t dare fight at at 170.
You know at at no 170 something pounds because you know broads are strong you’re taking more of a risk.
These broads are absorbing shots and they stepping through okay, so um.
You know you just got to be smarter with taking those chances.
I mentioned Natasha Jonas because, like I said, she’s not playing she’s, looking like she’s she’s, trying to be Undisputed Junior middleweight champion okay, because um she’s not even taking any shortcuts, so she’s, not fighting four and 40s she’s going after the Champs she’s going after the the The um, the the former Champions it’s like she’s, making she’s not playing it, she’s, not playing it safe in the way that she’s fighting for and 40 Fighters, and she you know, she’s Paddington and then she’s moving.
She she’s um she’s attacking the other sharks that are swimming in those Waters.
Okay um, then we got Eva to carry so Eva to carry to me, like I said Eva, is, is one of those Fighters where she’s a big girl, she’s out of Canada.
I think she’s a Montreal abroad, so I mean the Montreal people take care of their Fighters, male or female.
You ain’t gon na go to Montreal or you’re not going to fight one of them in in no Canada and and beat them.
That’S for one thing: that’s why home that’s why that girl ended up getting killed over there right so um, because I’m still on your neck, Jim um, Yvonne Michelle, I’m still on your neck um, because yeah.
There was no reason why that girl that should have um died over there right.
Y’All went too far in setting people up and so um yeah be careful going in women’s boxing going to Montreal to fight um, but Eva now, fighting Natasha Jonas, my prediction or how? I feel about that.
Fight is um, Eva, don’t have Eva, does not have the dog right.
She’S a dog but Jonas is a, is a Jonas is a dog that she may be.
She may be in a house pet, but she run the streets too.
If you know what I’m saying you know um the Kerry I I haven’t even seen her fight outside of Canada, I don’t think she has where Natasha Jonas is now taking her chances out in these streets.
That’S what I’m saying so my prediction there is, I don’t think there will be a stoppage, because Eva de Carrey is a big, broad, she’s, a big um.
You know poutine eaten Broad out of Canada, so she thick thick she’ll she’s, going to absorb Natasha’s punishment, but Natasha got the the skills and the guns to to win a fight between her and um against, Eva in in that um situation.
I love how Natasha puts her her punches together.
I love I like how she steps to anybody.
That’S in front of her.
She has great IQ.
I don’t see where Eva has an IQ, she’s and she’s athletic for sure and she’s strong, but her IQ ain’t up there um to to be jamming with the likes of Natasha Jonas.
So that is my prediction.
There I feel, like Natasha Jonas, will win by a decision in that fight.
Would love to see Eva decarre um, leave her porch and maybe go fight Hannah Rankin.
That would be a good match right, Eva think about it right because you’re, just I’m breaking down to you sweetheart you, you special over there, where you at in Montreal.
But if you’re going to be a women’s boxer in women’s boxing, you got ta leave your porch at least one time or you know what I’m saying to um bag.
A lady is out there so Eva though um Cecilia bracket sabona, and and give her a couple rounds in there.
That may be an interesting fight.
People still want to I’m not saying that uh Cecilia breakfast is washed up.
What I’m saying is nobody’s interested anymore, but um Eva decarre has still has I mean Eva to carry.
Has people who are interested in her so Cecilia may get some interest by fighting someone who has a somewhat of an interest um in her from her hometown, like Eva from um uh uh, Montreal, okay um in this division? Now I’m gon na throw the girl Jessica mccaskill in there, because she’s trying to run her little punk ass out of of the heaviness, but by fighting um Chantelle Cameron, but bringing your ass back, because I I’m I am predicting in in the matchup between those two That Chantal is going to pull off.
That fight is going to pull off the win.
I I see Chantelle Cameron, beating, Jessica, mccaskill, okay and um Jessica, Jessica, mccaskill, I’m not sure if she vacated her.
Her will vacate her mid, her um uh super welterweight belts or her welterweight belts or not, I’m not sure what the situation is, but guess what baby they coming they’re coming for.
Let’S see you windmill your way out of this so yeah, and then I mean I wasn’t.
I got to say it.
You know like this.
One coming watch out for Mary Spencer, Mary Spencer, yes, Mary Spencer to me is is, is I I see I I’m cheering for you, low-key girl.
I am you want to know why I I like your journey right.
You was a prima donna.
I wasn’t liking your little Primadonna ass before I got to say right because you they were giving you too much on on the silver spoon, and I knew you was going to crack under the pressure which you did.
But you know what I like about you Mary.
You sat your ass down.
You did like a like a grown woman.
Do when she find out it’s too much, because I’ve had to set my ass down too.
You set your ass down and you thought about.
It is this for me: what is it for? What am I doing this for, and you decided in your heart that you’re gon na mess around and try, and I see you doing it and I’m proud of you girl and because of that um.
That is when a fighter evolves, so Mary Spencer has evolved into a more dangerous fighter, and I see it they taking her on the 4 and 40 Road.
This is the Canadian way I see it.
I just most Canadian Fighters nowadays do that punk ass 4 and 40 roll uh road yeah.
I said it y’all don’t step up except for Olivia garula Olivia gorilla garula is a step up type of fighter.
I love it she’s a rough and tumble, but everybody else.
Y’All love them four and 40 Fighters and and y’all just y’all, just don’t have the heart to really step in somebody’s chest.
Unless you know for sure right, I can.
I beat her for sure.
You know some of y’all Canadian Fighters need to just take that chance.
Give give Olivia a call.
She she’ll she’ll teach you how to turn that that Kool-Aid pumping ass heart into into a real Fighter’s heart, because she’s a real fighter um.
So yeah! That’S what I have to say about this uh welterweight middle uh, junior middleweight, division, uh, uh, coming up because ain’t that a bill all right! That’S the that’s the title of the show, um yeah, that that’s what that’s! What I see that that’s what’s going on right! So um, I’m gon na read what what my my people’s got to say: okay, so um goodness um women’s Boxing Channel said because the holder of Undisputed may think oh I’ll have a tick over fight against breakfast because of her age.
Like I said and ain’t, nobody interested uh, Michael Oher came in and said: that’s the Savage inside of you how you got some more stuff inside of me too.
I’M just I’m a fun gal, I’m a really fun girl women’s Boxing Channel says I was the first person in the UK to take uh bkb legal by getting the first license in UK.
Okay um bare knuckle boxing.
Didn’T you I like that that that’s very commendable um you got the first license.
That’S amazing! I love that it takes a lot to be the first person to do something right, because, when you’re the first person to do something, it ain’t really as cool as it is when all of everybody is doing it now, you know what I’m saying when I was One of the first women or young women to be boxing.
It really wasn’t cool like we.
They used to laugh at us, especially some of us.
I didn’t used to get.
I used to get joked on um where’s, my guy, about my father’s business, who knew me back in the day.
Uh, I’m sure you used to joke on my ass, sometimes especially with my little afro, puffs and stuff like rocking rough and stuff and stuff.
You know um, there were jokes and stories about us.
You know that’s starting off, but now it’s cool you know now they got pink uh boxing gloves and all that stuff.
Now it’s cool but before it wasn’t cool.
So I really commend you women’s Boxing Channel for being the first person to be licensed in in in in in a combat such as bare knuckle boxing in the UK.
My Michael Orr says: uh take their heads off.
You know it because that was the motto Samurai.
I’M taking your head or you gon na, take mine right and it’s fair.
It’S fair! It’S okay! I got out of it.
Look I can say my ABC’s forward and CBA is backward right.
So yeah, I still have my faculties um Michael Oher, put the put the Emoji, the sleeping Emoji, your damn Skillet.
Yes, putting we wanted to see broads go to sleep.
We want to see Crohn’s, putting bras to sleep broads, putting Crohn’s to sleep.
That’S what we signed up for it’s: okay, it’s okay! It’S okay, um women’s Boxing Channel, says the hotel he put it on sanctioned is not the council? Okay! I don’t know what that means.
Michael Orr said it’s probably going to be the most exciting and middle Michael Oher says middle women’s Boxing Channel, says love your show, so just grab the cold Bud.
Okay, crack that thing back.
You know what I’m saying: throw that thing back and take a sip for me all right, the women’s Boxing Channel.
Oh you, gay and women’s Boxing Channel then gave me a drink too.
Thank you for buying me a drink, [, Music ].
Yes, sugar is animated.
Tonight I got the office all to myself.
Um women’s Boxing Channel says you say you won’t move up those weights, but Amanda Serrano is a legend and she is a seven division.
World champion don’t play with me: don’t play them games with me.
Seven division fighting who oh like I said I would have gone up and down, but sugar don’t play them games if I was gon na fight somebody or if I’m fighting broads out here, I’m fighting real broads out here, I’m not gon na fight abroad.
Out of my weight class, if she’s not a broad she’s, not a legitimate Contender, even in that weight class, um Amanda Serrano is Miss Paddington.
She is mispatting mint.
Okay, I don’t come out, don’t don’t come here doing that and the thing about it? Is it it ain’t even her.
It’S not Amanda Serrano, it’s Cindy Serrano.
That is that’s the dog.
Okay, it’s the sister, it’s the big sister, not the not not! Amanda Amanda been moved well by Jordan, okay, y’all know she she done devoted her life.
She don’t get no phone calls.
She don’t she.
She don’t get no text, she don’t have no boyfriend.
She don’t do nothing except for box.
You could see it on her face.
Her face looks so hard for a young woman.
She ain’t got she needs.
She ain’t got no life like she.
You could see it on her face, she’s, a beautiful gal.
It’S just that.
You know um yeah, Amanda Serrano, don’t that’s seven Division champion and all of that don’t believe the hype.
Her people then paid for the belts in the different divisions and she was able to do that.
She wouldn’t fight no real people.
She has yet to fight somebody like Tiara Brown.
She has yet to fight like um.
Well, y’all come on now, Michael, throw me throw me a um, a good lightweight, because I mean if sugar can think about it.
She has yet she didn’t uh Melissa, saying Bill, Melissa, St bill was down there and she Melissa same field just had a fight down there at that weight.
I think saying Bill weighed in at 126 or something like that right.
She has yet to fight those broads.
I even I think, she’s even on the the slides I think, she’s even on my slide list.
Uh tonight we’ll we’ll see um speaking of [ Music, ] um, let’s see um Michael Orr says no Paddington Bear Michael Oher says Montreal plays favorite, don’t you know it? Um women’s Boxing Channel says Jonas will beat the Kerry straight forward.
E uh, Eva de Carrey, likes to box long Jon Jonas will draw her in.
I I just see um um, Eva the Cara.
She just doesn’t have the IQ for Jonas, it’s not about drawing in or whatever.
Now I Jonas is going um Maul, her she’s gon na step into that broad chest and she’s she going she’s going to do what she want to do to that broad in that ring and I’m here for it.
I want to see it yeah um, because yeah, the curry, you you you um.
Now you got to think about how you going how you’re going to slide out of this okay.
Do you make your next couple? Oh, my goodness.
Let me move around and then y’all just give me a second sorry about that.
Talk about me in the comments um yeah! This is how it is in the office so um.
What was I saying? Yes, so drawing her in and all of that stuff? You know it’s, I I the reason why I like Natasha Jonas as a fighter is because Natasha Jonas is evolving too.
In that ring she tried that cutesy point fighting stuff and because she had gotten so many spanking decisions and she had gotten so many raw deals.
She’S really starting to let it hang loose in there um and she’s starting, and you know that griminess is starting to come out in her and I and and it makes for a more entertaining uh fighter women’s boxer.
So I like that um uh, Michael Orr, says she’s fighting in the UK against Jonas, okay, then so um it it looks like um.
It looks like Eva decarre is leaving her porch to fight Jonas, which is interesting.
That means that means for sure Jonas’s promoter is the one in charge of that um um flying to carry off her porch uh to the UK to fight Jonas.
So most likely the odds are going to be in Jonas’s uh corner.
All Jonas has to do now.
Is perform and give a championship performance um women’s boxing says she did, leave her porch and went to Sheila’s backyard and fought okay yeah.
She did okay good.
So I guess I’m sorry I’ll.
Take it back.
She left her porch to fight uh Clarissa Shields that one time okay and I mean if you go and fight Clarissa she if she left her porch to fight Clarissa Shields.
That means she.
She left her porch for some good money.
I’M talking about leaving your Porsche because you are bad [, __ ], because you’ll you’ll step off of your porch and go Step Up on another broad’s porch, because I’m bad like that.
Not because oh someone’s flying me out or whatever, because we’re taking on the energy of the Elders of the older Crohn’s, that was in the game, who used to fly anywhere the fight a bit because they heard she was bad.
That’S how we used to roll back in the day right sugar flew 12 hours to Japan, I’m just giving y’all one example, because I heard some [ __ ] in Japan wanted some sugar, because I heard she was bad because I heard in Japan they never seen.
No real women’s boxers or boxing happened before so.
That’S why I flew off of my porch because they ain’t paid sugar.
It was the opportunity outside of the rain right.
It was the opportunity to say that’s how best Sugar’s bad worldwide.
Why? I did that and I still have fans that remember sugar over in Japan.
That’S why I left my porch okay and Ryka.
Hadn’T Riker was the one that never left her porch.
So that’s what I’m talking about right! It’S not all relative! It’S really not in women’s boxing.
You got to know the broad you got ta like the broad and then, when you know the broad’s journey, when you know about the broad and who and how real, that broad is you’ll like her you’ll respect her and that’s when you appreciate what she does in The ring um Michael Orr, says to carry last fight out of Canada was against Shields and then uh women’s Boxing Channel says yes, Spencer.
Is a dog proper, yes, Spencer grew up.
Um women’s Boxing Channel says she was a good amateur yeah.
She was a prima donna, amateur right and um.
I saw it right when everybody was on her coattail and she just couldn’t do know what she was before.
Katie Taylor was Katie Taylor.
It was Mary Spencer right and the pressure busted that pipe and and she had to she – had to get a hold of herself and she did and came back and I’m a fan of that um.
She she put her big girl.
She put her big woman draws on it.
Um Michael Orr, says: Spencer is being fast-tracked um to a title shot.
I um, you should be Spencer, should be fast-tracked he’s been around long enough Spencer.
I think Spencer’s a crone now.
Okay, so do you yeah? She? She she’s not wet behind the ears, her her nose, ain’t wet.
She could step up and be and get a title.
She can do.
She’S she’s in the same uh graduating class as Natasha Jonas in them.
Okay, so yeah give her that title shot.
She needs to step up.
We want to see her um fighting these other broads out here um.
I want to see her fight in mccaskill.
I want to see her fight.
Jonas, I want to see her fight, um uh Rankin.
I want to see yeah Mary Spencer, she’s she’s, pretty entertaining I mean they need to clean her up down there in Montreal.
I don’t um somebody get this girl, I’m sorry get hurt, get her some good training, because she’s she’s.
She has a lot of potential, but I just I think she needs uh.
I think she needs a better team of trainers to to um help her to realize what her potential is.
Yeah she’s got a she’s in Montreal right now.
I think um girl, you always had that r b style right come on down here to the States you you will always be Canadian, but get some of that flavor from down here and and um and step it up Mary yeah.
You could do that.
Um yeah that Canadian styling ain’t gon na take you too far.
They they still too nice.
Um Michael Orr, says uh.
There are some real Canadian Fighters.
That’S the Crickets Mike [ Laughter, ], Canadian Fighters.
Don’T get me wrong, but the real ones have have.
They haven’t been around for a while.
There have been some real Canadian Fighters, but men and women, but it’s pageantry now up there, especially um.
I I someone a a fight guy in Canada, said it’s hard to get that people fighters to fight anymore, because everybody wants to this a side: B-side [, __, ] and um.
What’S going on, is you know nobody wants to take a chance and just find out? Nobody wants to rely on themselves and know that they’re a fighter and they can actually if they try and they put their heart and soul in it when they want a guarantee – oh yeah, you’re, sure yeah, you can.
You are gon na win this you’re gon na win this fight.
This person been knocked out eight times before they got to you.
So if you don’t kill, if you don’t win by Point, you’ll certainly kill him from the concussion that they may have had left over.
From those tkos they had before, like that’s the type of [ __ ], that’s going on, especially in Canada, yeah and I’m calling y’all on it right.
Y’All got ta, do better um uh Michael Oher says: don’t sleep on Canada.
We dangerous up here.
I’M waiting, though foreign dangerously cold come on now ain’t, nothing more dangerous than a Canadian winter.
I tell you that much.
I used to run out that [ __ ] by myself, who, when you used to run, listen um about my father’s business, um, Michael or all of y’all Canadians, because I I know you up there and I and I know all y’all got some um Canada experience That them winter mornings, ain’t no joke, and that’s I love Canada for that, because that’s what made me a dog I used to run out in the in in that Canadian morning winter, when I didn’t even have a fight coming.
That’S that’s the John! That’S the that’s! The stuff that used to make me mean yeah, so Canada has the potential to to to breed some real, real uh gutter, real gremlins, real goons.
It’S just that the heart a lot of the heart is, but the hearts are pumping that that that Kool-Aid, right and and it it’s it’s bad um, Canada used to add Canada – has had some of the wicked some of the baddest [ __ ] Fighters.
Trust me um, but now it’s it’s not so um or they haven’t, come back yet, okay.
So I’m not I’m, not writing Canada off.
It’S just that.
Y’All have a lot of talent and potential, but I mean I I like the foreplay, but I I still like the Happy Ending too [ Laughter ], oh man, I’m sorry y’all.
Just let me be like this um and so women’s Boxing Channel says my son.
Andy started the whole um bare knuckle boxing in UK as a sport, and I got the license for his show.
I like that good and you’re a supportive parent too.
I appreciate that and good on Andy for getting that started.
Um women’s Boxing Channel said the very first license in the UK, okay about my father’s business.
I know I’m reading this thing slow, but you know um about my father’s business says yes LOL, so it might have been.
Yes, if you are in agreement to something something I said earlier, it must have been about y’all making fun of me when I was young back into back in those days and y’all teasing me for being that little scrappy, uh girl boxer that used to show up Every day and and get my ass whooped until I started whooping ass right um about my father’s business, says some of the other younger guys joked you, but I never really joked you.
I was more amazed than anything that a young woman at that time could fight like that, especially after you’ve battered that guy, okay, then okay, I appreciate that about my father’s business.
I really appreciate that because a lot of people thought uh and too bad was crazy, but too bad wasn’t crazy too bad was a misfit and she had found a home with some guys, some fantastic Fighters at the time.
In that boxing gym.
I tell you that kitchen was hot.
Okay, I told that we had Vernon Forest.
We had Chris Johnson Vernon Forest, beat cost the zoo in the amateurs and was a world champion Chris Johnson, Olympic bronze, medalist Cedric Boswell um top 10 heavyweight um, The Sims twins uh, who else O’Neill Bell cruiserweight champion? Who else like you? They was in the building.
Okay, the these guys and everybody was coming through.
Okay um everybody was coming through anybody that you can name in boxing at the time came through our kitchen right, so um.
It was some great great sparring, great times Israel Guerra, who fought Christy Martin, her badass um.
Corinne van rydegoud or Goose um great Contender at the time came through Susie Taylor came through um Susie Taylor fought Laila Ali and Susie Taylor was a middleweight champion, fit woman, boxer Rolanda um.
What was it uh? They called her Rolo, but what was her last name was it Adams, Rolo um was the first and only fighter to drop uh Mia St John on her ass.
So let me tell you like, like the kitchen was hot, the block was hot in there: okay, um yeah and then sugar, you know and and then we had some other females in there that I can’t really, you know, put my put my my thing.
My head on but yeah, we, it was hot in that kitchen, it was every night.
Well, we, it was crunk down there, not crunk gym, but you know we had it: Chrome, Jordan, ATL style, crunk um about my father business, saying I remember: rapper maze was trained by Johnny as well for a workout.
Only so Johnny Gantt was down there.
Uh John again, the DC Legend, who just recently passed away last year, um was a a trainer at the gym on Biggs Morrison boxing gym uh, and he also had his club uh, the Atlanta pal um.
I mean the Stone Mountain pal, Stone, Mountain Police, Athletic League.
So he he was giving back down there, and I was his first uh one young lady.
I was the first young lady.
He he trained and I became a world uh Champion uh as an amateur and moved on to be a world-rated fighter.
So he poured into me – and I’m just so grateful for that man uh.
He was a coach, a mentor, Father Figure and and um.
I love him till this day for that everything he poured in me.
I pour into other Fighters that I help Okay, um and yes Puff Daddy, came down and trained in our gym.
P Diddy mace John coach Johnny train mace Pete.
I don’t know about my father business if you was there, but when Xavier Toliver, who was another Baddie, he was a junior um.
A junior world champion whooped Puff Daddy ass in in the boxing gym that uh one night, that that was funny that it was so funny um, because he was only like 14 years old and what Puff Daddy, ass and Puff Daddy was uh in his 30s.
At the time, so that was funny um yeah, uh well um well.
Take that that that’s that that’s what Puff Daddy uh used to say but but Xavier was on some take that take that take that when he was whooping upside puppy head.
That’S that uh sparring session, but I digress good times good times, um women’s Boxing Channel says: Serrano fought Eva Bara, Burger 26 8 at 12, KO Hardy 22, 2 and 1 KO Daniela Bermudez 21-40.
Did you check their records? Please check these women’s records.
I mean Hardy Hardy.
I like Heather Hardy right because Heather Hardy gon na fight your ass.
I liked her.
I like her as a fighter so I’ll give her that um my phone, who I’m, who I actually have her as a topic of discussion in tonight’s chat, foreign forty fighter.
Okay, like check these people record, she fought Katie Taylor, okay, um yeah Serrano for Katie Taylor um, but you know that was [ __ ].
That was shenanigans right.
She um uh, so Amanda Serrano didn’t even fight people that she posted had been fighting because she got the opportunity through Jake Paul, because Jay Paul, all of a sudden became, becomes a promoter and wants to be legitimate um.
So he used Amanda Serrano to the to make himself legitimate somehow in boxing and put on this, that match between her and Katie Taylor.
That’S the only relevance and significant in that matchup.
She didn’t earn that she wasn’t she.
She wasn’t no name that anybody was talking about like that.
She had a good record.
Her people named paddingtoned her record right, um, padding mint her record, but yeah Daniela Bermudez check her record.
She was a padded Champion right all of these people right they were fighting debuters and listening right it.
This matchmaking thing goes deeper, okay, when sugar says something that’s what it is: okay, when, if, if I’m talking, if, if I’m saying that surroundings, that you know it that she’s she’s a bit of hot air, I’m not just saying it, because I’m I’m gossiping, I’m saying It because I know what a real fighter does out here: okay, Cindy, her sister is a real fighter.
Right Cindy has fought some Crohn’s, some dragons, some bad broads right stepped up, doing it, but Amanda.
Now goodness the theme for tonight was it like every 15 min every 20 minutes.
I’M sorry y’all! It’S always something like it makes it.
It makes the show interesting: okay, okay, um yeah so like I know what a real fighter does: okay and so even Serrano’s.
Last fight, which I think it’s on my is on my lovely assistant, put some together.
I mean even that some some damn hot air, okay, she she she’s, not she’s, not beasting like like y’all, think she is she’s a good fighter.
She I I mean she all right, but um.
She ain’t that gal um women’s Boxing Channel says which part of that CV indicates: Serana, didn’t fight.
Anyone please, like I said you, you a book you book smart with this boxing thing.
I flew the plane.
If, if you know what I mean I stepped in the rain, I know what it feels like what it looks like what it smelled like what it tastes like.
So when I look at abroad – and I see what she doing – and I say this one ain’t real – I’m the one – it ain’t you, it ain’t your words, it ain’t your numbers right, because anybody can write something on the paper that that’s what we call that’s what We call Paper Tigers, they bad on paper right, but when they supposed to be stepping up to the real tigers right when they you’re supposed to see them in there with some real people with some real experience and real records and real doings out here, you don’t See those names on their receipts, that’s what I’m talking about.
You didn’t even name in your list, women’s Boxing Channel any of her opponents that were that are actually great opposition that she fought right.
Um do some more homework Michael Orr says.
Well, we all know she ain’t nobody.
I mean she all right, she’s, a good fighter, but she ain’t nobody.
Um, I’m into boxing, says sugar wish you could do live audibles with your audience like some do the way we could all interact.
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